Deep Dive Into Lift Kits (For Sasquatch Broncos) That Won’t Break the Bank

[Broncobro04]

I am trying to follow all of this discussion with interest. However, I don't have much knowledge on suspensions, so need educated considering my interests.

I have a MY22 Badlands Sasquatch. I stayed with 35s with my new wheels and have no desire to go larger. I have felt that the front end is too soft since day 1. Last weekend I installed a JCR Offroad front bumper winch plate and winch which I think added maybe 100 - 110 lbs. to the front bumper. Maybe I am just being too critical, but it seems to look even more droopy up front than it did stock, which was already a bit lower.

This is a daily driver, but want it capable for weekend adventures here in Colorado......more rock crawl capable than desert racing.

My goal is to raise the front back up to more level.......and on a budget. Was thinking just replacing the front coilovers but leave the rear as stock Sasquatch components. Originally I was eyeing the Bilstein 6112 coilovers, but this thread has enlightened me a bit.

What would you all recommend to meet my objectives without the need to replace UCAs and that can work without overly stressing my CV axels.........basically can I get my front end back up by maybe 2" or 2.5" and have a reliable front suspension with just a set of new coilovers? What say you?

Yes you absolutely can get that level look and counteract the front rake. From the factory the Sasquatch has a slight rake, adding a heavy front bumper increases that rake. If you think it’s too soft, you could go with eibachs and a heavier spring, like somebody mentioned. Or you could go with the 6112s like you were looking at. Both of those will give you added lift height as well as adjustability to counteract the weight of that heavy front bumper.

You could replace just the front coilovers if you are happy with the rear factory Bilsteins, however I’m of the belief that these coilovers are designed to work as a set of 4 for the best ride.

In short, the 6112s will have a firmer, sportier ride on the road where as the eibachs will have a softer ride. I personally prefer a more firm ride on the street but am not a particular fan of digressive valving (firm over small bumps, soft over big bumps) off-road so in my case I would just go straight to an adjustable coilover.

Like I mentioned earlier, you probably don’t need new UCAs if you plan to stay under 2.5”.

Shoot me a message and I’ll get you squared away with special pricing.

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[golfermurray16]

Bronco brothers and sisters, this is it!

I’ve noticed so many bronco owners asking about which lift kit is best and there is so much confusion with all of the different conflicting answers. I’ve decided to make it simple for you and create an easy reference guide to clear things up. I couldn’t do it by myself though, I reached out to @DoYouBronco, the cofounder of Hammer Built, and @popo_patty, the Gold Country Broncos suspension guru. From ripping through the deserts of the West to crawling the mountains of the East, we’ve certainly seen a thing or two. Combining our vast trail experience and in depth product knowledge is the only way we could come up with this comprehensive list that will satisfy 80% of bronco drivers, without spending $5-6000 on a high end kit from ADS/Fox/king/icon etc. If you are interested in any of these kit, shoot me a message or leave a comment below and take advantage of our 4th of July sales!

We put together this list so that we could save you the headache of research and ease your way into the bronco suspension rabbit hole. There’s lots of strong opinions out there, sit back and relax while we unfold them. New bronco owners or off-roaders, take note, there’s some valuable inside info here with actual facts that reinforce our street and off-road rating system. We’ve come up with the Send It™️ scale to help you better visualize which kit applies to your specific needs (but feel free to challenge our opinion ). This scale is a single score that encompasses damping ability, travel numbers, shock fade resistance, off-road comfort/harshness, and bottom out control.

For reference, we placed the HOSS 1.0 Hitachi shocks at a 3/10 for streetability and we gave it a 1 on our Send It™️ scale. HOSS 2.0 or factory Bilstein shocks are a 3 and 3. On the other hand, a 10 on our Send It™️ Scale would be our personal favorite, ADS Racing Shocks. Fox and King are also up there on the list but we’ll cover those high end systems at another time. A 10 on our street scale would be an electronically valved shock similar to the Raptor’s live valve or SDI E-Click that instantly adapt to your driving style.

We’ve done all of the research so you don’t have to and we put the personal bias aside. We narrowed this list down by scrutinizing popular products, hearing from YOU ALL (who were a huge help in creating this list) as well as witnessing and testing first hand these tried and true suspension kits. If you have a kit that’s not on our list, that doesn’t mean you made the wrong choice, these our just our top recommendations. Our target audience for this list are the bronco owners that want to take their Sasquatch broncos to the next level, or if you are just wanting to dip your toes into the off-road vehicle modification world.

Our list covers the following kits:
1. RPG Off-road Spring Perch Collars
2. Eibach Pro Lift Springs
3. ReadyLift 3.0 SST Kit
4. Eibach 2.0 Pro Truck Coilovers
5. Bilstein 6112 Series Coilovers

So without further ado, here is our #hammerbuilt Best Budget Lift Guide for Sasquatch Broncos

RPG Perch Collars ($250)
Street Scale: 4/10
Send It™️: 4/10
Front 2.25” / Rear: 1.25”

For somebody who is just looking for a small lift that’s low cost, we decided on the RPG spring perch collars. This kit comes with everything you need to simply level your bronco to look best with 35” tires when utilizing the 1.25” collar up front. Save the 2.25” for later when you want to run 37s or just like the extra stance and tire clearance. Unlike other spacer lifts, perch collars DO NOT change the factory suspension geometry specs and causes zero additional stress to ball joints, CVs, tie rods etc. These add a sporty element to the ride, and make things like sharp edges like man hole covers and pot holes, cracks slightly more noticeable. Most have noted no noticeable Negative change in ride quality. Expect slightly better handling, reduced body roll and brake nose dive, as well as more bottom out control vs stock. If you like the more floaty and soupy ride of the stock suspension these are not for you!
(See also: SVC spring perch collars)


Eibach Pro Lift Springs ($450)
Street Scale 5/10
Send It™️ 4/10
Front: +2.3" / Rear: +1.6"

The next step up from perch collars are to completely upgrade the coil springs to the Eibachs. Expect a similar look and lift height as the RPG collars but with a slightly softer ride. While perch collars increase the preload on the factory spring to achieve the extra height, the Eibach coils are designed from the ground up to not only sit taller but ride 15-20% smoother than the perch collars. We’d place the ride stiffness as between stock and perch collars. These springs reduce the harshness felt when driving over sharp angles like man hole covers, pot holes, road cracks and bridge expansion joints that some say feel more pronounced with the collars.


ReadyLift 3” SST ($999)
Street Scale: 4/10
Send It™️: 5/10
Front: 3” / Rear: 2”

Similar to the Icon spacer kit, this one is a mix of a perch collar and a top hat spacer. This effectively lengthens the shock but not so much where it increases wear on components as opposed to a 3” top hat spacer. Provides 3” of lift to comfortably fit 37s. Decreases brake dive in the front. Leaves the rear a little soft, resulting in less of a “bucking bronco” when going over whoops or potholes. While punching it, you’ll feel the weight shift to the rear end. This helps raise the front to glide over whoops like butter. This kit includes new UCAs which will prolong the life of ball joints and maintain OEM alignment specs for optimal tread wear. Also included is a rear track bar relocation bracket to center your rear axle at your new ride height.
(See also: Icon 3” C/O spacer lift *UCAs separate)


Eibach Pro Truck 2.0 Coilovers ($1799)
Street Scale: 7/10
Send It™️: 6/10
Front: 0.5-3” / Rear: 1.2-2.7”

The next level up in street and trail comfort comes from completely upgrading the shocks to the internal floating piston Eibach 2.0 coilovers. This upgrade gives you a much wider range of height options that allows you to grow with your build. They are height adjustable, so you could start off with 35s and a level look with 2” up front and 1” taller in the rear, then increase the ride height for when you plan to move up to 37s. If you plan on adding heavy accessories like bumpers, winches, swing out tire carriers, tents, recovery gear, etc. You can correct your rake/squat by simply adjusting the preload collars on the Eibach shocks. Unlike snap ring style shocks these adjustments can often be made without uninstalling the shocks from the bronco.


Bilstein 6112 Series Coilovers ($1650)
Street Scale: 6/10
Send It™️: 7/10
Front: 0.8”-2.8” / Rear: 0.3”-1.7”

If your bronco will see more trails than most, expand your horizons with a complete coilover assembly from Bilstein. Like the Eibach 2.0, These shocks are also height adjustable via a snap ring system (up to 2.8” lift) but require removal and reinstallation of the coilover to change height. The difference between the Eibach 2.0 and the 6112 is the larger 2.5” diameter shock body that holds much more oil for sustained comfort and durability during longer and harder off-road sessions. The 6112’s larger 60mm piston surface area provides more dampening for a smoother ride and more control over tougher terrain. Broncos with extra weight from winch bumpers, overland gear, extra passengers, maybe you ate a few too many donuts this morning, etc. will experience enhanced stability and less body roll due to the digressive valving. These shocks ship unassembled and require assembly prior to install, allowing you to set your desired height out of the box. These shocks also have a zinc coating to protect the body from developing surface rust, further improving durability.


Honorable mention:

BroncBuster 1.5-3” Body Lift
We know the stigma around body lifts, “they’re unsafe”, “they aren’t a real lift”, “there’s no benefit” blah blah blah. That stuff just simply isn’t true and there is a very real purpose for body lifts. The kits listed above can only fit a max of 37” tires comfortably without body work. A body lift allows you to get that extra bit of fender clearance to safely fit those 38s or 40s. On an IFS rig, you are limited by CV axle, ball joint, and tie rod angles. You can’t just slap long shocks on for more lift, and that’s where the body lift comes into play.

If anybody is interested in any of these kits, send me a message, leave a comment, or even shoot me an email at [email protected]. We’re offering special pricing for forum members plus 4th of July sales so don’t miss out!

I’m curious why the 3 inch ready lift kit and not the 4 inch kit if trying to fit 37s??? Appreciate the post with all the great info. Think it’s time to lift my SAS Bandlands!

 

[Broncobro04]

I’m curious why the 3 inch ready lift kit and not the 4 inch kit if trying to fit 37s??? Appreciate the post with all the great info. Think it’s time to lift my SAS Bandlands!

Hey brother, the 4” lift is for non sas (non badlands) broncos and the 3” is for sas. Same with the zone lift kit. They net the same ride height either way.

Shoot me a message to get squared away!

 

[Dannebrog53]

I apologize in advance if this has already been discussed. I have a 2022 Wildtrak and I’m guessing it accommodates 35’s by way of a factory lifted suspension. Here’s my question, how much additional cv angle is there for between a non Sas Bronco vs Sas Bronco vs 2”-3” lifted Sas equipped Bronco? Reason being the greater the CV angle the shorter the life expectancy. Any thoughts from those in the know?

 

[Mike777]

Bronco brothers and sisters, this is it!

I’ve noticed so many bronco owners asking about which lift kit is best and there is so much confusion with all of the different conflicting answers. I’ve decided to make it simple for you and create an easy reference guide to clear things up. I couldn’t do it by myself though, I reached out to @DoYouBronco, the cofounder of Hammer Built, and @popo_patty, the Gold Country Broncos suspension guru. From ripping through the deserts of the West to crawling the mountains of the East, we’ve certainly seen a thing or two. Combining our vast trail experience and in depth product knowledge is the only way we could come up with this comprehensive list that will satisfy 80% of bronco drivers, without spending $5-6000 on a high end kit from ADS/Fox/king/icon etc. If you are interested in any of these kit, shoot me a message or leave a comment below and take advantage of our 4th of July sales!

We put together this list so that we could save you the headache of research and ease your way into the bronco suspension rabbit hole. There’s lots of strong opinions out there, sit back and relax while we unfold them. New bronco owners or off-roaders, take note, there’s some valuable inside info here with actual facts that reinforce our street and off-road rating system. We’ve come up with the Send It™️ scale to help you better visualize which kit applies to your specific needs (but feel free to challenge our opinion ). This scale is a single score that encompasses damping ability, travel numbers, shock fade resistance, off-road comfort/harshness, and bottom out control.

For reference, we placed the HOSS 1.0 Hitachi shocks at a 3/10 for streetability and we gave it a 1 on our Send It™️ scale. HOSS 2.0 or factory Bilstein shocks are a 3 and 3. On the other hand, a 10 on our Send It™️ Scale would be our personal favorite, ADS Racing Shocks. Fox and King are also up there on the list but we’ll cover those high end systems at another time. A 10 on our street scale would be an electronically valved shock similar to the Raptor’s live valve or SDI E-Click that instantly adapt to your driving style.

We’ve done all of the research so you don’t have to and we put the personal bias aside. We narrowed this list down by scrutinizing popular products, hearing from YOU ALL (who were a huge help in creating this list) as well as witnessing and testing first hand these tried and true suspension kits. If you have a kit that’s not on our list, that doesn’t mean you made the wrong choice, these our just our top recommendations. Our target audience for this list are the bronco owners that want to take their Sasquatch broncos to the next level, or if you are just wanting to dip your toes into the off-road vehicle modification world.

Our list covers the following kits:
1. RPG Off-road Spring Perch Collars
2. Eibach Pro Lift Springs
3. ReadyLift 3.0 SST Kit
4. Eibach 2.0 Pro Truck Coilovers
5. Bilstein 6112 Series Coilovers

So without further ado, here is our #hammerbuilt Best Budget Lift Guide for Sasquatch Broncos

RPG Perch Collars ($250)
Street Scale: 4/10
Send It™️: 4/10
Front 2.25” / Rear: 1.25”

For somebody who is just looking for a small lift that’s low cost, we decided on the RPG spring perch collars. This kit comes with everything you need to simply level your bronco to look best with 35” tires when utilizing the 1.25” collar up front. Save the 2.25” for later when you want to run 37s or just like the extra stance and tire clearance. Unlike other spacer lifts, perch collars DO NOT change the factory suspension geometry specs and causes zero additional stress to ball joints, CVs, tie rods etc. These add a sporty element to the ride, and make things like sharp edges like man hole covers and pot holes, cracks slightly more noticeable. Most have noted no noticeable Negative change in ride quality. Expect slightly better handling, reduced body roll and brake nose dive, as well as more bottom out control vs stock. If you like the more floaty and soupy ride of the stock suspension these are not for you!
(See also: SVC spring perch collars)


Eibach Pro Lift Springs ($450)
Street Scale 5/10
Send It™️ 4/10
Front: +2.3" / Rear: +1.6"

The next step up from perch collars are to completely upgrade the coil springs to the Eibachs. Expect a similar look and lift height as the RPG collars but with a slightly softer ride. While perch collars increase the preload on the factory spring to achieve the extra height, the Eibach coils are designed from the ground up to not only sit taller but ride 15-20% smoother than the perch collars. We’d place the ride stiffness as between stock and perch collars. These springs reduce the harshness felt when driving over sharp angles like man hole covers, pot holes, road cracks and bridge expansion joints that some say feel more pronounced with the collars.


ReadyLift 3” SST ($999)
Street Scale: 4/10
Send It™️: 5/10
Front: 3” / Rear: 2”

Similar to the Icon spacer kit, this one is a mix of a perch collar and a top hat spacer. This effectively lengthens the shock but not so much where it increases wear on components as opposed to a 3” top hat spacer. Provides 3” of lift to comfortably fit 37s. Decreases brake dive in the front. Leaves the rear a little soft, resulting in less of a “bucking bronco” when going over whoops or potholes. While punching it, you’ll feel the weight shift to the rear end. This helps raise the front to glide over whoops like butter. This kit includes new UCAs which will prolong the life of ball joints and maintain OEM alignment specs for optimal tread wear. Also included is a rear track bar relocation bracket to center your rear axle at your new ride height.
(See also: Icon 3” C/O spacer lift *UCAs separate)


Eibach Pro Truck 2.0 Coilovers ($1799)
Street Scale: 7/10
Send It™️: 6/10
Front: 0.5-3” / Rear: 1.2-2.7”

The next level up in street and trail comfort comes from completely upgrading the shocks to the internal floating piston Eibach 2.0 coilovers. This upgrade gives you a much wider range of height options that allows you to grow with your build. They are height adjustable, so you could start off with 35s and a level look with 2” up front and 1” taller in the rear, then increase the ride height for when you plan to move up to 37s. If you plan on adding heavy accessories like bumpers, winches, swing out tire carriers, tents, recovery gear, etc. You can correct your rake/squat by simply adjusting the preload collars on the Eibach shocks. Unlike snap ring style shocks these adjustments can often be made without uninstalling the shocks from the bronco.


Bilstein 6112 Series Coilovers ($1650)
Street Scale: 6/10
Send It™️: 7/10
Front: 0.8”-2.8” / Rear: 0.3”-1.7”

If your bronco will see more trails than most, expand your horizons with a complete coilover assembly from Bilstein. Like the Eibach 2.0, These shocks are also height adjustable via a snap ring system (up to 2.8” lift) but require removal and reinstallation of the coilover to change height. The difference between the Eibach 2.0 and the 6112 is the larger 2.5” diameter shock body that holds much more oil for sustained comfort and durability during longer and harder off-road sessions. The 6112’s larger 60mm piston surface area provides more dampening for a smoother ride and more control over tougher terrain. Broncos with extra weight from winch bumpers, overland gear, extra passengers, maybe you ate a few too many donuts this morning, etc. will experience enhanced stability and less body roll due to the digressive valving. These shocks ship unassembled and require assembly prior to install, allowing you to set your desired height out of the box. These shocks also have a zinc coating to protect the body from developing surface rust, further improving durability.


Honorable mention:

BroncBuster 1.5-3” Body Lift
We know the stigma around body lifts, “they’re unsafe”, “they aren’t a real lift”, “there’s no benefit” blah blah blah. That stuff just simply isn’t true and there is a very real purpose for body lifts. The kits listed above can only fit a max of 37” tires comfortably without body work. A body lift allows you to get that extra bit of fender clearance to safely fit those 38s or 40s. On an IFS rig, you are limited by CV axle, ball joint, and tie rod angles. You can’t just slap long shocks on for more lift, and that’s where the body lift comes into play.

If anybody is interested in any of these kits, send me a message, leave a comment, or even shoot me an email at [email protected]. We’re offering special pricing for forum members plus 4th of July sales so don’t miss out!

Appreciate the post! I'm curious on what your thoughts are on the BDS 3 Inch kit for Sasquatch. I just purchased 37's K02 and was looking for a little more clearance for off road purposes when I'm articulating. It actually fits well but once I articulate I can tell there will be problems. Included the BDS kit below.

3-4" Spacer Kits w/UCA | 2021-2022 Ford Bronco 4 Door | 023410 | BDS Suspension (bds-suspension.com)

 

[Broncobro04]

I apologize in advance if this has already been discussed. I have a 2022 Wildtrak and I’m guessing it accommodates 35’s by way of a factory lifted suspension. Here’s my question, how much additional cv angle is there for between a non Sas Bronco vs Sas Bronco vs 2”-3” lifted Sas equipped Bronco? Reason being the greater the CV angle the shorter the life expectancy. Any thoughts from those in the know?

I just took this yesterday. I didn’t measure and don’t have pics of stock but here’s my current cv at full droop, then at ride height. The video was taken more to show the tie rod angle but you can still see the CV

 

[Broncobro04]

Appreciate the post! I'm curious on what your thoughts are on the BDS 3 Inch kit for Sasquatch. I just purchased 37's K02 and was looking for a little more clearance for off road purposes when I'm articulating. It actually fits well but once I articulate I can tell there will be problems. Included the BDS kit below.

3-4" Spacer Kits w/UCA | 2021-2022 Ford Bronco 4 Door | 023410 | BDS Suspension (bds-suspension.com)

The BDS kit falls inline with the Readylift/Icon/Zone lift. For the price, I’m not seeing any stand out features besides the BDS name. It includes tie rod sleeves, but I’m not a firm believer in those. Similar to how ReadyLift includes the track bar relocate, I think it’s just something to be a little different. As for tie rods, I’d go with icon or try to get ahold of Hoss 3.0 tie rods, or full Broncbuster package if you plan to do some hardcore wheeling.

At that price point, I’d say save your money to put it towards beefing up your steering rack, or JKS max tire kit, other mods. Or you could spend a couple hundred bucks more and get the Bilstein set up

 

[Gluestick]

I think what I need some help understanding is what are the essentials for someone with badsquatch wanting to go up to 37s and have proper geometry and no rubbing.

I’ll call it the “no shortcuts to 37s efficiency package” because I don’t really care to have more articulation than stock. Just the slight increase to height and larger diameter for rolling over obstacles.


is there a clear path forward for that?

• do you need front UCAs?
• do you need rear UCAs?
• do you need track bar?
• do you need the JKS max tire clearance kit?

I’m trying to figure out the total shopping cart to do this right so I don’t end up having to do it twice, or get started with the assembly and discover the uh-ohs, and drag out the project while waiting on parts

I see a lot of interest in 37s with high speed articulation for Baja-request driving, or slow speed super crawler stuff. I’m wanting a bit more tire for southeast back country driving to smooth the bumps, gain a slight amount of clearance over the OEM 35s, and be able to drive this jungle buggy for decades.

 

[Dannebrog53]

I just took this yesterday. I didn’t measure and don’t have pics of stock but here’s my current cv at full droop, then at ride height. The video was taken more to show the tie rod angle but you can still see the CV

Thanks for the video! That definitely helps. It gives a good idea of CV angle. Greatly appreciated @Broncobro04

 

[Broncobro04]

I think what I need some help understanding is what are the essentials for someone with badsquatch wanting to go up to 37s and have proper geometry and no rubbing.

I’ll call it the “no shortcuts to 37s efficiency package” because I don’t really care to have more articulation than stock. Just the slight increase to height and larger diameter for rolling over obstacles.


is there a clear path forward for that?

• do you need front UCAs?
• do you need rear UCAs?
• do you need track bar?
• do you need the JKS max tire clearance kit?

I’m trying to figure out the total shopping cart to do this right so I don’t end up having to do it twice, or get started with the assembly and discover the uh-ohs, and drag out the project while waiting on parts

I see a lot of interest in 37s with high speed articulation for Baja-request driving, or slow speed super crawler stuff. I’m wanting a bit more tire for southeast back country driving to smooth the bumps, gain a slight amount of clearance over the OEM 35s, and be able to drive this jungle buggy for decades.

These are great questions, I’m also in the southeast doing the same type of riding that you probably would do

I’d shoot for a 3” lift. I’d run new UCAs for anything 3” or higher. Rear links aren’t the most necessary if you aren’t looking for more articulation, which tbh, I’d put more priority on articulation rather than lift height, but sometimes you need the extra lift height to allow the bigger tires.

Track bar will allow you to recenter your rear axle after lifting, I’ll say that I didn’t do anything with my track bar and it’s only just slightly off center.

JKS tire kit would help and it’s not that expensive to help clear up that wheel well to keep from rubbing on the metal pieces that could potentially damage a tire

 

[Mike777]

The BDS kit falls inline with the Readylift/Icon/Zone lift. For the price, I’m not seeing any stand out features besides the BDS name. It includes tie rod sleeves, but I’m not a firm believer in those. Similar to how ReadyLift includes the track bar relocate, I think it’s just something to be a little different. As for tie rods, I’d go with icon or try to get ahold of Hoss 3.0 tie rods, or full Broncbuster package if you plan to do some hardcore wheeling.

At that price point, I’d say save your money to put it towards beefing up your steering rack, or JKS max tire kit, other mods. Or you could spend a couple hundred bucks more and get the Bilstein set up

Interesting….you don’t like the Broncbuster tie rods as a stand alone item instead of the set? I was going to get that for now the only issue I’ve heard is it may put more pressure on the rack. The Icon tie rods I heard are too big at 4 and can damage the rack as well. I can’t use the Hoss 3.0 since I have a 21 bronco. Won’t be able to use the rear portion so sort of feels like a waste to pay for the full set up.

Also read differing opinions of using spacers like the ready lift cause the stock system can’t really handle the extra lift when articulating.

 

[Broncobro04]

Interesting….you don’t like the Broncbuster tie rods as a stand alone item instead of the set? I was going to get that for now the only issue I’ve heard is it may put more pressure on the rack. The Icon tie rods I heard are too big at 4 and can damage the rack as well. I can’t use the Hoss 3.0 since I have a 21 bronco. Won’t be able to use the rear portion so sort of feels like a waste to pay for the full set up.

Also read differing opinions of using spacers like the ready lift cause the stock system can’t really handle the extra lift when articulating.

I wouldn’t beef up the tie rods too much without doing anything to the rack. You can still beef up the tie rods but they still need to be the first breaking point. The Broncbuster braces are pretty beefy, it would take a lot to break them or the tie rods with them on, therefore breaking the stock rack instead.

It’s my understanding that the icon tie rods are strong, but not so strong where the rack becomes the weak point. I don’t remember where I read about that, but that’s my understanding.

Basically, get the whole Broncbuster package if budget allows, it’s going to be the best option (74weld also makes goo stuff). But for just tie rods, go with icon or hoss 3.0 is what I recommend

Spacer lifts aren’t as bad as people make them out to be. Perch collars are safe, the issue is when you have a top hat spacer that’s too large and pushes the coilover down too far, resulting in overextension of the CVs, tie rods, etc. The kits that use a spacer plus a perch collar (readylift, icon, zone, BDS) are typically alright since they use a perch collar to help get that height as opposed to just a 3” block on top of the shock. This allows you to have a smaller top hat spacer to get the 3” of lift.

Just know that with a spacer lift, you aren’t going to get a big difference in ride quality nor the increased performance of an aftermarket coilover. The only benefit of a spacer lift is increased ride height.

I’m not understanding what you mean by “won’t be able to use the rear portion”

 

[Mike777]

I wouldn’t beef up the tie rods too much without doing anything to the rack. You can still beef up the tie rods but they still need to be the first breaking point. The Broncbuster braces are pretty beefy, it would take a lot to break them or the tie rods with them on, therefore breaking the stock rack instead.

It’s my understanding that the icon tie rods are strong, but not so strong where the rack becomes the weak point. I don’t remember where I read about that, but that’s my understanding.

Basically, get the whole Broncbuster package if budget allows, it’s going to be the best option (74weld also makes goo stuff). But for just tie rods, go with icon or hoss 3.0 is what I recommend

Spacer lifts aren’t as bad as people make them out to be. Perch collars are safe, the issue is when you have a top hat spacer that’s too large and pushes the coilover down too far, resulting in overextension of the CVs, tie rods, etc. The kits that use a spacer plus a perch collar (readylift, icon, zone, BDS) are typically alright since they use a perch collar to help get that height as opposed to just a 3” block on top of the shock. This allows you to have a smaller top hat spacer to get the 3” of lift.

Just know that with a spacer lift, you aren’t going to get a big difference in ride quality nor the increased performance of an aftermarket coilover. The only benefit of a spacer lift is increased ride height.

I’m not understanding what you mean by “won’t be able to use the rear portion”

"When the 3.0 system was introduced, the immediate reaction from the community was "How can I add that on my Bronco I've already taken delivery of?" At the time, Esteban Plaza-Jennings, former Bronco brand manager, informed BN that parts couldn't be bolted on to make your own HOSS 3.0. The main reason? The rear sway bar Ford added to 4-door Sasquatch Broncos at the beginning of this year was not available on ’21 Broncos.

"The primary difficulty for anyone that wants to bolt on 3.0 is that rear sta-bar," says Bronco Vehicle Engineering Manager Jamie Groves. "If you`have a 21MY truck, you don't have the brackets on the frame to mount the rear sta-bar. Specifically for HOSS 3.0, the rear bar enabled us to reduce spring rates, which offered some tuning opportunities. It's like adding another knob to turn in suspension tuning. That rear bar enables better off-road and on-road performance.”

 

[Broncobro04]

"When the 3.0 system was introduced, the immediate reaction from the community was "How can I add that on my Bronco I've already taken delivery of?" At the time, Esteban Plaza-Jennings, former Bronco brand manager, informed BN that parts couldn't be bolted on to make your own HOSS 3.0. The main reason? The rear sway bar Ford added to 4-door Sasquatch Broncos at the beginning of this year was not available on ’21 Broncos.

"The primary difficulty for anyone that wants to bolt on 3.0 is that rear sta-bar," says Bronco Vehicle Engineering Manager Jamie Groves. "If you`have a 21MY truck, you don't have the brackets on the frame to mount the rear sta-bar. Specifically for HOSS 3.0, the rear bar enabled us to reduce spring rates, which offered some tuning opportunities. It's like adding another knob to turn in suspension tuning. That rear bar enables better off-road and on-road performance.”

That’s interesting. It almost sounds like they are considering the rear sway bar as part of hoss 3.0. Which if that’s the case, then you can’t go full hoss 3.0. I’m not saying go full hoss 3.0, I’m just saying get the just the hoss 3.0 tie rods if they fit. I’m not 100% on if they fit or not, I’d have to research that but how would the rear sway bar have any effect on the tie rods

 

[Mike777]

That’s interesting. It almost sounds like they are considering the rear sway bar as part of hoss 3.0. Which if that’s the case, then you can’t go full hoss 3.0. I’m not saying go full hoss 3.0, I’m just saying get the just the hoss 3.0 tie rods if they fit. I’m not 100% on if they fit or not, I’d have to research that but how would the rear sway bar have any effect on the tie rods

It has nothing to do with the tie rods. From my understanding I believe it all comes together as a kit. I may be wrong, but it looks like I'd be paying for something I can't use. I don't think I can purchase just the Hoss 3.0 tie rods.

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