Latest drivetrain nugget from Ford

[MaverickMan]

https://www.caranddriver.com/features/g20734564/manual-transmission-cars/

Good luck, you're down to about 30 choices

Im not a new car kinda guy, the 96 is the newest I've ever owned(its okay because its engine was designed in the 60s). For the Bronco I'm making an exception to that rule, I always told myself I would do that for a Mustang or the right kind of van. However the new vans are getting too expensive and the Mustangs wont make it down my road. Some day I will put a 302(347) and a Jericho Toploader(they have one for hi-po 4wd EBs) in my Eagle and that will satisfy my muscle car needs. My old beloved 79 Ford Quadravan is currently in ruin thanks to an auto trans that caught fire. But I have the chassis, the 460, and the NP205. I am toying with building a custom aluminum body for it after I find a ZF 5speed (or a T18 and a Gear Vendors OD).

One new style car is all I can really handle. The Bronco will be good even with the lil 2.3. I will just build it up to about 350hp 450tq and be happy with it. But I do need lockers and good suspension. So hopefully the good suspension will be an option on the Black Diamond, so I can get my lockers and rubber floors.

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[Broncode]

One just has to look at what Toyota did with the 2020 Supra. Toyota didn’t offer a manual transmission, and what a surprise....2020 Supra sales slumping and 1994-1998 Supra sales surging.

There is no magic formula or recipe, give the people a car that made the original car a huge success and you will be rewarded with huge sales. The new Bronco is (so far) looking to be a badass rig. It’s not 100%, but it’s new and there is plenty of time for a “SVT” Ford Performance version....which might get a V8 or TTV6 w/manual, SFA, mechanical transfercase, etc... Let’s see what happens in the coming months or year.

Let’s all just be glad Ford didn’t partner up with BMW on this vehicle. Toyota is hurting on this one.

 

[JT1]

2.7 manual isn't going to happen. What we need to push for is a manual sasquatch. We know the transmission is already there, and we know it can be paired with 4.70 gears and F/R lockers on the Badlands. VERY small amount of engineering dollars to offer manual sasquatch. We MAY lose the front dig and/or one pedal trail control, but that's a tradeoff most manual enthusiasts would take.

 

[The Pope]

2.7 manual isn't going to happen. What we need to push for is a manual sasquatch. We know the transmission is already there, and we know it can be paired with 4.70 gears and F/R lockers on the Badlands. VERY small amount of engineering dollars to offer manual sasquatch. We MAY lose the front dig and/or one pedal trail control, but that's a tradeoff most manual enthusiasts would take.

We don't Know this. It is "highly" unlikely though.
We need to push for Both.... 2.7L w/MT and SAS w/MT.

 

[JT1]

We don't Know this. It is "highly" unlikely though.
We need to push for Both.... 2.7L w/MT and SAS w/MT.

You're right, we don't know for sure, but since the 2.7 isn't offered in any other product with a manual, the engineering investment is going to be much more expensive than the software tweaks needed to get a 2.3/7MT sasquatch out to the public.

 

[siddious33]

2.7 manual isn't going to happen. What we need to push for is a manual sasquatch. We know the transmission is already there, and we know it can be paired with 4.70 gears and F/R lockers on the Badlands. VERY small amount of engineering dollars to offer manual sasquatch. We MAY lose the front dig and/or one pedal trail control, but that's a tradeoff most manual enthusiasts would take.

This. There really should be NO reason you can't get Sasquatch on a 2.3L manual Badlands trim. You already have it ready to go with everything on the Badlands minus the 35's. Seems to be no reason the manual 2.3 can't turn that easily enough. You already even have the 4.7 rear end.

Maybe that is the only trim level you get where you can have that exact combination, but so be it. At least it would be there if you want manual from the factory with Sasquatch.

At this point I'm leaning toward just ordering a Badlands and then swapping the 285/70/17 tires for 285/75/17 tires which would put them super close to the Sasquatch tire size and I'd essentially have a manual Sasquatch on my own (albeit without the "high clearance suspension" maybe, and also maybe an inaccurate speedometer).

 

[Gamecock]

2.7 manual isn't going to happen. What we need to push for is a manual sasquatch. We know the transmission is already there, and we know it can be paired with 4.70 gears and F/R lockers on the Badlands. VERY small amount of engineering dollars to offer manual sasquatch. We MAY lose the front dig and/or one pedal trail control, but that's a tradeoff most manual enthusiasts would take.

Why would “we” need to push for that? I want manual with 2.7; Sas with the smaller engine is useless for me and many others.

 

[Used2jeep]

Dealing with leaky rusty auto lines on a 96 and 2002 in the last week has sealed the deal for me. NO AUTOS. "But...." NO DO NOT CARE. NOT GONNA DO IT. "All the sports cars are..." NOPE ZIP IT! SHUSH!!!!

Im a high performance enthusiast and I am willing to have Ford put a limiter on the torque output until the warranty is up. Just cant do an auto!

My thoughts too - auto is more to go wrong. Yes, IF you eat a clutch then it will cost a bunch to replace. BUT that BUNCH is less than the BUNCH for an auto repair. Although, remote start is nice in the winter and really hot summer...

 

[lobbs611]

One just has to look at what Toyota did with the 2020 Supra. Toyota didn’t offer a manual transmission, and what a surprise....2020 Supra sales slumping and 1994-1998 Supra sales surging.

There is no magic formula or recipe, give the people a car that made the original car a huge success and you will be rewarded with huge sales. The new Bronco is (so far) looking to be a badass rig. It’s not 100%, but it’s new and there is plenty of time for a “SVT” Ford Performance version....which might get a V8 or TTV6 w/manual, SFA, mechanical transfercase, etc... Let’s see what happens in the coming months or year.

Let’s all just be glad Ford didn’t partner up with BMW on this vehicle. Toyota is hurting on this one.

I'm sure the lack of manual transmission played a small part of the new Supra's lackluster start but it is far from the only or even primary reason.

 

[porjos]

This is unrelated to this post, but i have to say...the Sasquatch names are just killing me.

I saw Sascrotch earlier and now Samquantch? It's become 49% of why i comb this forum daily.

 

[cursed_hemi]

Ford has been very clear that they have no plans to offer the 2.7 with a manual for the foreseeable future.
It does seem like they're possibly working to offer the manual with the Sasquatch Package as it wouldn't require a whole lot to make it work. According to Levine's tweets anyway.

 

[LemonShark]

Plot twist: Ford always intended to offer the manual with every model, but launched it saying the opposite. Then later, after the enthusiasts are whipped into a tizzy, they "give in" to demands. In a PR moment of glory, they release the manual across all options and seem like the most attentive automaker ever.

 

[edgeflyer]

Why would “we” need to push for that? I want manual with 2.7; Sas with the smaller engine is useless for me and many others.

You haven't looked at the Dyno comparisons have you?

 

[The Pope]

You haven't looked at the Dyno comparisons have you?

I have and I STILL want the 2.7L w/MT.

 

[Gamecock]

You haven't looked at the Dyno comparisons have you?

Obviously...that’s why I want the torque of the 2.7.

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