Mach-E driver's panicked search stops four times on 200-mile trip looking for charging station

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To be fair, Ford's 270-mile estimate on my AWD extended range Mach E is pretty accurate, and sometimes even a bit conservative. I've heard Tesla's advertised estimates are often "best case scenario" but I have no direct experience with that and can't comment on it.

I've put about 5,000 miles on my MME, most of it highway driving 75-80mph, and I'm getting 3.1+ miles per KWH. My MME has a 88kwh battery, and 3.1*88= 272.8, so Ford's estimate is pretty solid. If I take backroads and keep it 55-60 mph, I could easily get 300+ range.

Also, ICE EPA ratings are only accurate to the particular testing process they put the vehicle through, so efficiency/range estimates being "optimistic" or very specific to a testing cycle is not unique to EVs. EV ranges are also tested and certified by EPA; the manufacturer can't just advertise whatever they want.

EV typically has higher efficiency in city than highway
Normal ICE typically has higher efficiency in highway than city
Sasquatch has the same low efficiency in city & highway

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[NAP51DMustang]

how long will it take for a nationwide charging network to support Ford vehicles?

Travel back in time and have Ford accept Musk's offer for use if their charging network.

 

[MDbeachguy]

electric cars are a gimmick

dont buy into it until the batteries change

you were warned

 

[ATLBronco75]

Ehh, the language of Tesla's patent use terms is pretty sketchy and opens up anyone who does to Tesla using any of their IP as well. So it doesn't surprise me that major auto manufacturers weren't willing to open up their entire IP to Tesla for Tesla patents vs buying technology off other firms to get their battery/EV tech up to speed.

That's not exactly right. It says you can't sue Tesla if you use their patents. There was nothing stopping manufacturers from adopting their charging standard and nothing else. We could all be charging on Tesla charging stations if other companies had freely licensed the charging portion of the patents. All this would have cost Ford is losing future opportunities to sue Tesla over charging technology.

 

[Raptor911]

Tesla owns 80% of the EV market so their charging stations are everywhere as they have to be

Both cars have nav systems that will plan a route for you to take charging into account.

Though the Tesla Supercharger network is everywhere it seems.

 

[Raptor911]

I am sure when cars 1st appeared, most people thought they were a gimmick and kept their horse.

Like the internal combustion engine, EVs have to start somewhere.

electric cars are a gimmick

dont buy into it until the batteries change

you were warned

 

[boxwood]

I haven't done more than a cursory review of modern electric cars. But the problems of 20 years ago are still there. Low range, nowhere to charge, expense (of buying AND charging). It's basically going to cost an owner a lot more than a petrol engine.

Oh, and doesn't it take 30-90 min to charge one back to at least 60%? That would be fun on a trip, stopping every 250 miles and sitting there for an hour and a half. And scurrying around like rats trying to find an open charging station? Short trips? You go to the store around here, it's 20 miles, or a 40 mile round trip. What if you chance your charge level, get to the store, and don't think you can make it home? Again, scurry around looking for a charging station, drum your fingers for 18 minutes, just so you can drive back home. I just don't see the attraction.

Read this https://insideevs.com/news/503880/mustang-mach-e-dc-fast-charge-test/

Low range?
Looks like average is 250 miles. Given the average miles driven is around 13-14k miles thats about 27 miles a week day ...I think its got it covered even your 40mile round trip.

As far as you not seeing the attraction, you need to look at it from others situations not just your own. I suspect your 40mile trip to the store is probably not the norm and more of an outlier. Playing the numbers/ law of averages game an EV works for most people average driving situations as far as range

Now the long hauls trips is another story for a pure EV, and thats where hybrid comes in, best of both worlds.

 

[Razorbak86]

electric cars are a gimmick

dont buy into it until the batteries change

you were warned

Seems legit.

 

[North7]

electric cars are a gimmick

dont buy into it until the batteries change

you were warned

I'm not sure why the US does not follow Japan's lead on hydrogen cars?

Toyota unveils new fuel cell car in fresh push on hydrogen technology

Japan keeps auto industry's hydrogen dreams alive

 

[MDbeachguy]

I am sure when cars 1st appeared, most people thought they were a gimmick and kept their horse.

Like the internal combustion engine, EVs have to start somewhere.

sure. But unless the technology to increase range DRAMATICALLY changes , and soon , you will have mass adoption of a very inferior technology

EV's are causing blackouts in the UK https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/la...ut-risk-from-more-evs-without-charging-change

 

[MDbeachguy]

I'm not sure why the US does not follow Japan's lead on hydrogen cars?

Toyota unveils new fuel cell car in fresh push on hydrogen technology

Japan keeps auto industry's hydrogen dreams alive

hydrogen is great and it was the worst crime EVER that it wasnt adopted instead of this planet wrecking lithium garbage

 

[HotdogThud]

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On a smaller scale, phones mostly NOW have either USB C or lighting chargers.

All phones are usb-c now, kudos to the EU for forcing that one on phone manufacturers. Apple is still holding out on lightning just to be an ass, when even the iPad's are usb-c. I think they just want to sell more dongles. maybe that's tesla's move too...

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[Raptor911]

Remember what happened 2 months back when the east coast pipe line was hacked? It was mass panic and it was only down for 1 week.

Again, EVs needs to start somewhere. The internal combustion engine has been improving for over 130+ years.

Maybe EVs need 100 years to improve. If you don't allow it to elvolved then civilization will end.

sure. But unless the technology to increase range DRAMATICALLY changes , and soon , you will have mass adoption of a very inferior technology

EV's are causing blackouts in the UK https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/la...ut-risk-from-more-evs-without-charging-change

 

[boxwood]

sure. But unless the technology to increase range DRAMATICALLY changes , and soon , you will have mass adoption of a very inferior technology

Range isn't really a problem, current range suits the majority of daily drivers.

If you only drive 25 miles a day why do you need a car with 400 miles of range?

 

[MorgansRun]

The second 1 is service, service, service, service. That is the most important thing for us is wiring a closed loop between the vehicle, the condition of the vehicle, the service capacity of the dealers and the customer is going to be the most important valet we're going to have to play together with the dealers.

So it sounds like they are going to try to gouge us on service costs. Great plan. Way to look to the future, Ford.

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