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Sorry for the long post but it's needed to paint a picture of my experience with Ford and Dealerships

I am a lifetime Ford Fan and a owner ever since I was 15. My love for Broncos began when I was in 3rd Grade and a Friend's folks got a brand new white Bronco with the Eddie Bauer trim. I knew I wanted one when I got old enough to drive. I was devastated when they where discontinued and replaced with the 97 expedition.

Fast forward a few years. I couldn't afford a used bronco that hadn't been driven into the ground. I saved my pennies and bought my 1st vehicle at 15 , a 1985 Mustang LX. I loved that car even though it was a carburetored 2.3 4 cylinder and a month older than me.

That was the start of me always having a Ford product, from there it was a 95 Ranger, 91 Mustang LX 5.0, 97 F250, 01 ZX2, 65 Mustang, 07 Mercury Milan, 11 F150, 13 Escape. I still have the 65 and always will. I just sold the 11 F150 with 270k trouble free miles. And currently driving my wife's old car, a 15 Outback until the Bronco arrives.

After tech school I was thrilled to get a mechanic job at the local Ford store and then went up front as a service advisor later became master certified. Unfortunately, the dealer I worked for I found, was a less than admirable. I was let go because I wouldn't swindle my customers. After that I chose to leave the industry as I saw that the dealership I worked for was not a anomaly but the norm. as I was uncomfortable selling people unneeded services. They got what was coming to them as Ford pulled the franchise from the owners during the downturn of 2008.

I have done business with all the major Ford dealers in the St Louis area and have had less than stellar experiences with either sales and/or service. The current business model for these dealerships is toxic to not only the customers but the employees too. The sigma that all dealerships are out the screw you is very much earned.

However the buying process at the two Subaru dealers my wife and I have bought from ( Outback and Ascent )has been the exact opposite of the Ford stores in the area. Full of product knowledge and made the buying process pleasant. They both wanted to make sure we got the exact one we wanted and not just what's on the lot. (BTW the Ascent has 19 cup holders):p

When the new Bronco was announced, I was pleasantly surprised that Granger Ford was braking with the toxic pattern of dealerships, (the get them for every penny you can with smoke and mirrors.) Doing so I spoke with the late Albert and was confident in choosing to do business with Granger Ford even though they are a State away with no doubt Dozens of dealerships along the way.

Ford appeared to be trying to change the toxic pattern too with the reservation system and saying they will build all customer orders before dealer stock units. Plus, the timestamp for your place in line and the ability to move your reservation.

Now it looks as I was wrong, it seems Ford has chosen to punish Granger Ford , Stephen's Auto Center and their customers with constant movement of the goal and changing to allocation for distubtion of Broncos and not filling customer orders in order as it was advertised from the get go. And insulting the customers by saying dealer stock will be built before all orders due to allocation...
Ford, isnt one in hand better than two in the bush?

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My wife has a Bronco order at Granger Ford placed on October 14, 2020

Granger informed us today that based on Ford's new allocation policy, we should expect delivery SOMETIME IN 2024.

4 years to get her Bronco is too long @Ford Motor Company :(
 

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I have a 7/13/2020 Badlands order. I tried to do business with my local large dealers.

1) The dealer that Ford required me to reserve from (due to website bug on reveal) was awful. They refused to respond to my queries and the only email response I received was "you can buy from us", as if they were granting me a great honor by them allowing me to buy from them. This is the biggest dealer in my area and I've purchased multiple new vehicles from them in the past. The first actual contact was when they called me to demand a $3000 deposit. I told them that was too much and they never contacted me again.

2) I tried to contact several other dealers. No interest in my reservation. Not even the dealer that I had just bought a new truck from the previous year.

3) I did negotiate with one local dealer that was reasonable and helpful and responsive, but we did not agree on terms. I have no problem with them, and they are a good contributor on this site. I would do business with them in the future. For reference, I offered them an extra $1700 dollars to purchase locally.

4) Because I had an early reservation that was easily in the expected MY21 allocation at every dealer I talked to, I decided to order from Granger even though I thought it might take slightly longer. It made sense, even with the shipping costs. Granger has been extremely helpful and responsive. Extremely easy to do business with. All by email. Perfect.


It is truly appalling that with all of the issues of the past year, that Ford has decided not to honor their reservations and even orders placed in the first 24 hours after reveal may have no chance of MY22 build.

I had a basic expectation that Ford would treat customers fairly and with respect to the greatest extent possible, but Ford has repeatedly violated that trust. I am very disappointed since I have been a fan of Ford vehicles.
 

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I have just been informed that because my reservation is way past the allocation amount, I will not see my Bronco "for many years". Was this bait/switch engineered by Ford specifically to screw us -- just so the sweaty dealer pigs want to have free rein to gouge away? Fuck you Ford - never ever ever ever again & anyone I know will spend one dime on your products.
 

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Originally, all I wanted was an AMB Bronco with a color matching top. No problem they say, that will be late availablilty. Oops, not only can you not have that but the chance of even getting a mod top became slim to none.

Being a naive, but realistic, person I say no problem just give me the MIC top that will be fine. Just kidding, you don't get that either AND for being such a sucker by switching before the deadline you are not going to get the 200k in bonus points either. Thank you may I have another.

Fast forward to the latest, forget about getting AMB. @DealerInsider tells me that I am near the top of his list but since my build is a 2dr there are no guarantees, after all, his soft tops will jump the line. So yes, It is of no surprise that Ford is screwing with us yet again, badly.

They have been doing this from the start.
 

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Ford should have never continued taking reservations and orders once they realized they couldn’t build these things. I didn’t know about their cut off date and found only found out about the Bronco a month later. Once o found out about it and knew I could secure financing, I ordered within two days (4/19). I paid my $100 and my dealer charged $400 to convert to order.
my dealer didn’t tell me they were 99ing my order because it had a hard top STANDARD, after Ford dropped the unbuildable mod tops which were previously standard.
My order at that time was as spec’d as it came STANDARD with the MIC.
Ford refused to let WT orders switch to a soft top for a chance at a quicker build. THEN they changed the game once again, forcing us to have the soft top standard on future builds.
They don’t offer price protection like they promised (again only up until 3/19). To skirt this promise, they kept the WT the same price and offer a $695 voucher from a third party company. This is only for those who ordered or reserved before their decided deadline 3/19.
They won’t be giving me a similarly equipped vehicle as the one I ordered and my price will go up $695.
Do I have anything to be angry about? Not much, since I missed the deadline, but they knew way before 3/19 that they couldn’t handle the orders they had and kept taking them anyway, changing what they said the entire way.
I will finally get my build un99’d but will probably still not see it until probably 2023 because some joker with money will be able to jump the line and pay 10k or whatever over for my exact order, and many of those who ordered before me because Ford wants to please the mega dealers by giving them stock on their lots.
They noticed the price protection on March 25 2021 which is before the date that you joined the game. The $695 is a very reasonable price increase being a little over 1% And no where near inflation rates this year. Even being an early person inline we didn't think we would see our WT until 2022 and was concerned about price increases before they sent out that email on the 25th. I agree they should have cut off reservations and then filled every order first……but such is life
 

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The real reason this vehicle is so hyped is because of the number of reservations that happened so quickly. Ford basically used us as a marketing tool they could have never produced or paid for, it was the reason media and auto reviewers could not wait to get their hands on the vehicle. This forum has been tracked by every major auto magazine and website, because we made this auto more relevant than any other vehicle on the planet. They made promises to reward us with a system that would ensure we received the Bronco before everyone else, all of the people that thought the sport was the real Bronco. Pisses me off that I have given them so much free publicity, yet I can literally buy any other new vehicle made before I receive mine, not because of commodity restraints, but because they got what they needed and never intended to honor their commitment to us.
 

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Has any dealer actually received dealer stock??

So far the only new Broncos I’ve seen for sale are the mannequin units or abandoned orders.
yup, my dealer has no mannequin and only delivered 2 customer orders but has somehow received 2 dealer stock units they are offering at $25k ADM
 

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My wife has a Bronco order at Granger Ford placed on October 14, 2020

Granger informed us today that based on Ford's new allocation policy, we should expect delivery SOMETIME IN 2024.

4 years to get her Bronco is too long @Ford Motor Company :(
Dang, in that case with my much later order, I'm probably looking at year 2026+!

If Ford thinks this move will make me pay a lot more and deal with the aggravations of some local Chicagoland dealerships, Ford is way way off target.

I'll do a George Costanza and not buy a Bronco simply "for spite", lol. Especially if it means dealing with these local dealer ADMs and them trying to insert trick etching fees and all that jazz. Never.
 

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They noticed the price protection on March 25 2021 which is before the date that you joined the game. The $695 is a very reasonable price increase being a little over 1% And no where near inflation rates this year. Even being an early person inline we didn't think we would see our WT until 2022 and was concerned about price increases before they sent out that email on the 25th. I agree they should have cut off reservations and then filled every order first……but such is life
I understand and agree it is minimal….except it is the exact cost of adding the MIC, which was standard on the vehicle I ordered. Could they charge more? Sure.
Could they have been honest and stood behind what they said from the beginning? Absolutely!
Remember, they wouldn’t let one Wildtrak be converted to a soft top. Couldn’t do it they said….meanwhile every mannequin WT got pumped out to be seen with a soft top.
I know I’m late to the game and in a long line of orders before me but I do expect them to stand by what was offered as standard when I ordered and to stand by the reservation system they were so proud of before the mega dealers got butthurt and had the rules changed in their favor.
 

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Simple question for Ford: If you were going to limit the number of Broncos a dealer would get in a year, why did you not also limit the reservations a dealer could get?

Since you did not, then you created this mess or you decided to implement allocation after the fact, which created this mess.
 

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@Ford Motor Company stated over and over in their reservation FAQs, that were later changed out of cowardice, that “all reservations would be built prior to stock units”. Then they changed it and added “in 2021”. Now it is completely abandoned. They caved like a cheap suit because of a little pressure from a select group of big dealers. I am completely disgusted that they would do this, and to go back on their commitment to customers who reserved is despicable. Now big dealers will get hundreds of stock units a year or more before first month reservation holders do. “The big lie” from @Ford Motor Company is indefensible.
 
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Here is a good pictograph to help explain how Ford's new allocation formula impacts reservation holders.

Ford Bronco #ReservationsoverAllocations giphy (1)
 

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I understand and agree it is minimal….except it is the exact cost of adding the MIC, which was standard on the vehicle I ordered. Could they charge more? Sure.
Could they have been honest and stood behind what they said from the beginning? Absolutely!
Remember, they wouldn’t let one Wildtrak be converted to a soft top. Couldn’t do it they said….meanwhile every mannequin WT got pumped out to be seen with a soft top.
I know I’m late to the game and in a long line of orders before me but I do expect them to stand by what was offered as standard when I ordered and to stand by the reservation system they were so proud of before the mega dealers got butthurt and had the rules changed in their favor.
Oct 2020 they made a change with hardtops for FE and WT and said MY21 would be MIC tops only For those 2 trims. They used Soft tops for almost every demo unit so more Hardtops would be available for orders.

As far as price protections seems they are following through on that pledge as well. I suppose they should have held my price and gone up a few thousand on res/orders that fell after the 3-19 date.

While I hate the wait, supply chain shortages, Chip shortages, global pandemic, new model rollout with overwhelming demand….it seems like fairly reasonable explanations even though it is not putting the Bronco in my garage.
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