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Whats up guys, as a lot of ya'll know. I installed Kings on my Bronco, about six months and 5,000ish miles ago. I also did an in depth Bronco suspension test of my own to compare suspensions from an owners perspective... well, enter Accutune @AccuTune Offroad now.

I love my Kings, however, they didn't come without a few drawbacks that I wanted to address. First off, the ride was rough, now I now that suspension feel is subjective, but to me, Kings rode very firm on the street. This is in part due to the fact that they are a race suspension and come to life off-road more then on-road. I still felt though that there was something more to gain from them. Even off-road, at high speeds I felt the back axle become jittery and get a little loose at high speed jumps. I also felt that the compression damper's were not adjusting as much as I wished. I felt as if they didn't quite tune up the shocks as they should for the money I spent on them. Don't get me wrong, I loved my King's, but I am very critical of things I put on my Bronco and love everything to be as dialed in as I can get it. The King's were great but I felt as if they could be improved on.

I also had issues with the rear springs, King missed the mark on those, they sag... big time... King developed the rear springs for a stock weight Bronco... but as you and I know, if someone is spending $4800 on suspension, they are probably also buying bumpers, loading in gear and going off-road, they might even be running 37" tires.

I had my rear pre-load dialed up soooo much to make up for my rear bumper and recovery gear that I was creating a harsh ride in the rear. Also, did you know that King advertises a linear piston which is true for the front. But their rear shock piston is actually digressive.

On the contrary for the front, the pre-load was on its minimum setting which is actually about 2" of pre-load. I left this height alone even on 37's as it was already maxing out the angle on the front with about 2" of ride height over Sasquatch.

Accutune called me up and invited me to come down and check out their shop and get my shocks tuned to see the performance they were able to pull out of the King shocks on the Bronco. People are very good about giving their opinion's over forums but these guys live and breath shocks and know the hard facts from experience, science and results) They specialize in Fox and King and did extensive R&D on both platforms on Bronco's in their shop. (Which by the way is right next to 74 Weld:).

I had a great time touring their shop and meeting the super awesome staff and then, I handed them over my specs as well as my King's. Now they were super gracious and allowed me to hang out for the tear down and tuning on one of my shocks and it was awesome to see their meticulous tear down and the science they put behind their tunes.

Now they re-valved all my shocks and also replaced the rear coil-overs digressive piston with a linear piston. We also replaced my rear springs with eibachs. A 650 lbs tender and a 400 lbs main spring to be exact.

Now science is cool and all, and numbers are great. But how did all this valving translate into my experience in the Bronco? Well to ensure a proper test, I drove them 2,000 miles before writing this post, I hit up a quick run on the Rubicon for some rock crawling and also hit up my local OHV track for some high speed runs and jumps.

I'm pleased to say that I LOVE the results ya'll. Gone is the high speed, rear end jittery sensation I had. Also, the envelopment of adjustability on the compression adjusters has opened up. I feel the results when I turn the dial and the range of adjustment has improved. The ride feels more composed on the rough stuff at speed and I now run a higher compression setting then I used to for daily driving. Soft used to be firm still and firm was unbearable but now soft is actually soft and firm is just right!

Also, the spring rates really helped to dial in that rear ride height without heavily relying on extreme pre-load. I now have a perfect rake and it handles a load with ease.

Can't recommend Accutune enough enough ya'll and I'll be having a video coming out shortly on my experience. In the mean time, if you wanna know shocks, give them a call!

https://accutuneoffroad.com/?gclid=...Axfn4nXWaactG_PRy-CokQ2cZ4AOs7CQaAqK4EALw_wcB

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I also had issues with the rear springs, King missed the mark on those, they sag... big time... King developed the rear springs for a stock weight Bronco... but as you and I know, if someone is spending $4800 on suspension, they are probably also buying bumpers, loading in gear and going off-road, they might even be running 37" tires.
This is the part that’s been frustrating to me watching the various suspension companies roll out their offerings and ultimately why I went with Radflo a while back.. as you know they spec w/ heavier Eibach springs similar to the way Accutune hooked your rears up now. At the time I bought mine they were the only company that cared to ask about what else you were trying to carry to make sure they got you the right springs. Everybody else just said “this is what you get”.. No one is looking to drop $5k+ on suspension for an otherwise stock Bronco.
In any case it’s cool that Accutune is competent enough to get your setup dialed.. I’ll keep them in mind
 

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Glad to hear Accutune made a big difference in tuning the shocks. Ordered some Kings through Accutune and waiting till this next Wednesday to get them installed. Needless to say, I'm very excited to get them installed.
 

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Any info on the shim stacks? What they came with out of the box from King and what Accutune changed them to?

I'd be curious to see if the Kings actually appear to be vehicle specific for the bronco. Do they just have generic pyramid shim stacks like .008's and .012's or do they have custom pyramid stacks or flutter stacks?
 
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Any info on the shim stacks? What they came with out of the box from King and what Accutune changed them to?

I'd be curious to see if the Kings actually appear to be vehicle specific for the bronco. Do they just have generic pyramid shim stacks like .008's and .012's or do they have custom pyramid stacks or flutter stacks?
Very good question and I’m sure accutune can chime in with an answer!
 

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First off, the ride was rough, now I now that suspension feel is subjective, but to me, Kings rode very firm on the street.
I have the King set up on my 21 4DR BL and yes, they are fairly firm. Even for off-road only, I would have tuned them a bit smoother. Overall, the spring rates are in the ballpark.

I find it very interesting the rears had digressive pistons, but that explains a bit to the feel of the back of my Bronco. Any pictures of the piston itself? I’ve seen the “pre-load” done a few ways and always curious on the differs designs. We played around with them a bit at SAW but could never get them to work as desired. DR/ICON used to use digressive on everything and I believe they are back to linear designs.

Would also be interested in the valve changes made. Did the fronts come from King with the compression flutter stack?Someday I’ll be changing mine when doing a rebuild. At least you have the correct hoses up front. I have to change those as well.

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I'd love to hear the Accutune take on the Fox Elite's. Thanks for the video.

It seems like rebound is to be considered carefully with these Bronco's when doing high speed offroad. Any thoughts on that ?
 

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Whats up guys, as a lot of ya'll know. I installed Kings on my Bronco, about six months and 5,000ish miles ago. I also did an in depth Bronco suspension test of my own to compare suspensions from an owners perspective... well, enter Accutune @AccuTune Offroad now.

I love my Kings, however, they didn't come without a few drawbacks that I wanted to address. First off, the ride was rough, now I now that suspension feel is subjective, but to me, Kings rode very firm on the street. This is in part due to the fact that they are a race suspension and come to life off-road more then on-road. I still felt though that there was something more to gain from them. Even off-road, at high speeds I felt the back axle become jittery and get a little loose at high speed jumps. I also felt that the compression damper's were not adjusting as much as I wished. I felt as if they didn't quite tune up the shocks as they should for the money I spent on them. Don't get me wrong, I loved my King's, but I am very critical of things I put on my Bronco and love everything to be as dialed in as I can get it. The King's were great but I felt as if they could be improved on.

I also had issues with the rear springs, King missed the mark on those, they sag... big time... King developed the rear springs for a stock weight Bronco... but as you and I know, if someone is spending $4800 on suspension, they are probably also buying bumpers, loading in gear and going off-road, they might even be running 37" tires.

I had my rear pre-load dialed up soooo much to make up for my rear bumper and recovery gear that I was creating a harsh ride in the rear. Also, did you know that King advertises a linear piston which is true for the front. But their rear shock piston is actually digressive.

On the contrary for the front, the pre-load was on its minimum setting which is actually about 2" of pre-load. I left this height alone even on 37's as it was already maxing out the angle on the front with about 2" of ride height over Sasquatch.

Accutune called me up and invited me to come down and check out their shop and get my shocks tuned to see the performance they were able to pull out of the King shocks on the Bronco. People are very good about giving their opinion's over forums but these guys live and breath shocks and know the hard facts from experience, science and results) They specialize in Fox and King and did extensive R&D on both platforms on Bronco's in their shop. (Which by the way is right next to 74 Weld:).

I had a great time touring their shop and meeting the super awesome staff and then, I handed them over my specs as well as my King's. Now they were super gracious and allowed me to hang out for the tear down and tuning on one of my shocks and it was awesome to see their meticulous tear down and the science they put behind their tunes.

Now they re-valved all my shocks and also replaced the rear coil-overs digressive piston with a linear piston. We also replaced my rear springs with eibachs. A 650 lbs tender and a 400 lbs main spring to be exact.

Now science is cool and all, and numbers are great. But how did all this valving translate into my experience in the Bronco? Well to ensure a proper test, I drove them 2,000 miles before writing this post, I hit up a quick run on the Rubicon for some rock crawling and also hit up my local OHV track for some high speed runs and jumps.

I'm pleased to say that I LOVE the results ya'll. Gone is the high speed, rear end jittery sensation I had. Also, the envelopment of adjustability on the compression adjusters has opened up. I feel the results when I turn the dial and the range of adjustment has improved. The ride feels more composed on the rough stuff at speed and I now run a higher compression setting then I used to for daily driving. Soft used to be firm still and firm was unbearable but now soft is actually soft and firm is just right!

Also, the spring rates really helped to dial in that rear ride height without heavily relying on extreme pre-load. I now have a perfect rake and it handles a load with ease.

Can't recommend Accutune enough enough ya'll and I'll be having a video coming out shortly on my experience. In the mean time, if you wanna know shocks, give them a call!

https://accutuneoffroad.com/?gclid=...Axfn4nXWaactG_PRy-CokQ2cZ4AOs7CQaAqK4EALw_wcB

I assume the comparison video you made with Icon and Radflo, that these were not tuned At the time? How would you rate and compare the tuned Kings to the Icon and Radflo, even the Raptor, now?
 
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I assume the comparison video you made with Icon and Radflo, that these were not tuned At the time? How would you rate and compare the tuned Kings to the Icon and Radflo, even the Raptor, now?
Yup! Everything was out of the box as they come for a fair test. Good question! I’d say that I prefer the Kings as far as the high speed off-road test over all of them. The Icons definitely had the plushest ride though. I can’t bring myself to recommend Icons though. If you’ll talk to a lot of suspension shops they won’t deal with them, accutune won’t touch them either. They have a lengthy reputation of poor quality control. I’ve personally seen 2 Broncos have issues with them.
 

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Yup! Everything was out of the box as they come for a fair test. Good question! I’d say that I prefer the Kings as far as the high speed off-road test over all of them. The Icons definitely had the plushest ride though. I can’t bring myself to recommend Icons though. If you’ll talk to a lot of suspension shops they won’t deal with them, accutune won’t touch them either. They have a lengthy reputation of poor quality control. I’ve personally seen 2 Broncos have issues with them.
Thanks for the feedback! Looking forward to the Fox and ADS testing… trying to decide between these and Kings….and tuned or not.
 
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Thanks for the feedback! Looking forward to the Fox and ADS testing… trying to decide between these and Kings….and tuned or not.
It doesn’t hurt to call Accutune. I found them to be very good people, not trying to make a Buck off every person and can definitely help you figure out wether a tune is needed for what you do! I’m stoked to put King and ADS head to head. Would love to add Fox but they are hard to find:(
 

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Any info on the shim stacks? What they came with out of the box from King and what Accutune changed them to?

I'd be curious to see if the Kings actually appear to be vehicle specific for the bronco. Do they just have generic pyramid shim stacks like .008's and .012's or do they have custom pyramid stacks or flutter stacks?
Unfortunately we don't give out tuning data. Like chefs, every shock tuner has a different way of dong things that work for them. We have our own formulas and techniques that have proven to work well. Since tuning is free when you purchase from us, we are happy to revalve the shocks for free if needed.

I'd love to hear the Accutune take on the Fox Elite's. Thanks for the video.

It seems like rebound is to be considered carefully with these Bronco's when doing high speed offroad. Any thoughts on that ?
Great question, and perfect timing for us to release our Fox vs King article a day early ;)
https://accutuneoffroad.com/fox-shocks-vs-king-shocks-ford-bronco/

Thanks for the feedback! Looking forward to the Fox and ADS testing… trying to decide between these and Kings….and tuned or not.
Lots of options out there for sure. Let us know if we can help answer any questions for you. (y)
 

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@popo_patty Which tune did you go with and why? Thanks

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That would be our Adventure Tune. This is a baseline and something we recommend for vehicles that are driven on the street often. It provides a soft yet controlled ride on and off-road. The Dual Sport tune would be for a vehicle that is more dedicated to getting used off-road and used hard. We can always make adjustments based on weight and driving style, but for the most part Adventure Tune comes highly recommended.
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