Exactly, I hope Ford reads your comment. I have a MT Cummins that I love, but waiting for the Wildtrack-auto only. Would love the opportunity for a manual Wildtrack, time will tell as things are changing every week.
It may come with hill assist which is awesome if not no biggie another plus with manual transmissions is your brakes last alot longer too.
Because everything that is offered has to be designed, tooled up and tested. There's a lot of cost involved with doing that. If the take rate is too low, they don't make the money back to offset the investment. If they don't make the money back, they aren't going to make a profit on that part. If they don't make a profit, they do not offer the part in the future.
That video is awesome. He basically explains that when crawling you can’t use all the torque from the 2.3 much less the 2.7. Very interesting information and should help with the comfort of takers on the 2.3. Some people (myself included) just want the 2.7 because we just do ?
Am i going to get some transferable credits for watching that video lol
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“So basically when you look at what’s going on in the marketplace with similar competitors products, the take-rates for models with manual transmissions is relatively low,”
Here’s Why The 2021 Ford Bronco 2.7L EcoBoost V6 Won’t Be Paired With A Manual Transmission
September 23, 2020 by Ford Authority
When the 2021 Ford Bronco was revealed to the world just a couple of months ago, people really only had three complaints about it. Firstly, they weren’t happy that Ford wasn’t planning on offering it with a V8, nor the fact that they couldn’t get FoMoCo’s new seven-speed manual transmission with the Sasquatch Package. Lastly, buyers seeking to pair the manual transmission with the more powerful Ford 2.7L EcoBoost V6 were out of luck, as it’s only available with the Blue Oval’s 2.3L EcoBoost I-4.
Ford has since corrected one of those “oversights,” as it just announced today that it would indeed offer the new Bronco with both the Sasquatch Package and manual transmission. However, it doesn’t look like Ford is going to change course and offer its new manual gearbox with the 2.7L EcoBoost V6 – at least for now. Recently, we had the chance to speak with Bronco Chief Engineer Eric Loeffler, who explained why FoMoCo chose not to go this route.
“So basically when you look at what’s going on in the marketplace with similar competitors products, the take-rates for models with manual transmissions is relatively low,” Loeffler explained to Ford Authority executive editor, Alex Luft. “So what we wanted to do is to provide it to the traditional user that wants the manual transmission and wants to do things that are very technical that are afforded by the manual.”
“The beauty of the product is that it still allows those who want to do it the old-fashioned way to do it, and also someone who’s a novice to let them try the technologies that we offer, you can do either in any one of our products,” Loeffler continued. “The manual in the 2.3 was paired up with what someone would want to do in the rock-crawling world, and that creeper gear is fantastic, so it’s well-tailored to that engine and that particular application.”
That means for now, Ford Bronco buyers who want a manual transmission will be stuck with one choice – Ford’s 2.3L EcoBoost I-4, which is projected to produce 270 horsepower and 310 pound-feet of torque, though The Blue Oval’s 10-speed automatic transmission is also available with the four-cylinder. Ford’s 2.7L EcoBoost V6 is projected to have an output of 310 horsepower and 400 pound-feet of torque in the new Bronco, but is only available with the 10-speed automatic gearbox for now.
However, Loeffler also admitted that Ford has not completely shut the door on the idea of offering Bronco 2.7L EcoBoost V6 models with the seven-speed manual transmission at some point in the future. “Well, never say never…it’s something we usually don’t really talk about – what we will do in the future,” Loeffler said. “But we’re a company that sells products, so if customers start asking for it, we’ll end up having to consider it.”
That 350Z probably weighed a good thousand pounds less than a Bronco.
At my local dealer they typically have 40% manual mustang GTs on the lot. Probably closer to 20-30% 2.3 manuals. The automatics rotate and the manuals sit on the lot much longer. It all depends on the area. When they have previous year mustangs sitting on the lot in January they are all manuals. Not knocking a manual, I was actually going to buy a 2021 Mach 1 manual originally before I decided to switch to the bronco. I would only buy a mustang in a manual, but my bronco will be an automatic. Honestly I wish they would let us equip them however we want but I’m going to take what i can get that will best for what I’m trying to do. I’m glad they are offering a manual for you guys that want it.No shit the manual transmission take rate is low when you don't offer it
Automakers don't offer manuals with desirable options or top engine options, so people don't buy them because they are not willing to sacrifice everything to have a manual. I like how they cite "competitors" for their decision. The Wrangler is the only competitor that offers a manual transmission, but they only offer it with 1/3 engine options.
The other part of the problem is when dealers won't stock manual transmissions, and the vast majority of people don't special order their cars; they buy what's on the lot. So if dealers don't stock any manual transmission vehicles, then people don't buy them even if they would have preferred to have a manual due to economic reasons or driving preference. My local Ford dealer that has almost 500 new Fords on the lot didn't have a single manual transmission on the lot when I checked their inventory a couple years ago when they were still selling Fiestas and Focuses. That includes about 40-50 Mustangs that were on the lot. I checked again the other day, and guess what, still not a single manual transmission Mustang. My mother is thinking about replacing her 2006 Honda CRV (5 speed manual that she had to buy new from another dealer 225 miles away), but wants another manual transmission crossover. The only option is the Jeep Compass. There wasn't a dealer within 1,000 miles that had a manual transmission Compass on the lot. She isn't going to buy something she can't even test drive.
I personally would be ecstatic if Ford would offer the 2.7L with the 7 speed manual. I am a manual transmission die hard, and honestly, the 7 speed manual is the part of the Bronco that has me the most excited.
Could be partially because that manual is atrocious!!
