Cost to add 4.7 ratio with accessory list

[broncosor]

Let’s say I buy an Auto Badlands 4 door with 33 tires and in a year I decide I want 35 tires and want to switch to 4.7 ratio to have the proper gearing for those tires
What would be the cost?

In the accessory list there is:

Dana 44 4.7 Ring and Pinion kit - $365
M210 4.7 Ring gear and pinion kit - $365
M201 FDU 4.7 ratio - $1800
M220 rear axle assembly with 4.70 ratio - $2,275

Do I need all those 4 items to have 4.7 ratio on a 4 Door Badlands with Auto transmition? Or just the 2 ring and pinion kit? Or anything else? And how much would be the installation cost approximately?
I don‘t know anything about this, sorry for being dumb.

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[Economisto]

I have the same question. To sasquatch or not to sasquatch.

 

[5280Bronco]

It already has 4.46 ratio correct? I would think that would still work for 35s?

 

[2Jeeps&PatriotX1]

You do not “have to have” 4.7 gears for 35s. The 4.46 will be perfectly fine w/ the 2.7 and 10speed.

I DD my f150, 55 miles round trip to work at speeds of 70-80mph w/ a 2k foot elevation climb. 10speed w/ the 3.5EB here at higher altitude, climb from 6k-10k regularly with 35” MT tires and can pass any non-sports car I please and holds the gears very well, with only the max tow package 3.55 gears.

 

[orion]

Let’s say I buy an Auto Badlands 4 door with 33 tires and in a year I decide I want 35 tires and want to switch to 4.7 ratio to have the proper gearing for those tires
What would be the cost?

In the accessory list there is:

Dana 44 4.7 Ring and Pinion kit - $365
M210 4.7 Ring gear and pinion kit - $365
M201 FDU 4.7 ratio - $1800
M220 rear axle assembly with 4.70 ratio - $2,275

Do I need all those 4 items to have 4.7 ratio on a 4 Door Badlands with Auto transmition? Or just the 2 ring and pinion kit? Or anything else? And how much would be the installation cost approximately?
I don‘t know anything about this, sorry for being dumb.

No, you would just need the first two! Badlands already has the M210 front diff, 3rd option but 4.46 gearing, and all Bronco's have the M220 rear axle, whether it has 3.73, 4.27, 4.46, or 4.7 gears.

Since I have a Black Diamond on order, I would buy the 3rd option to get 4.7 gearing plus getting the beefier front diff. I believe there is a 4.7 ring and pinion for the M190 in the accessory list but I would upgrade the diff too. If and when I upgrade the gears, I will probably just go up to the 5.18 or 5.38 gear sets.

The 3rd and 4th options include the axle housings...
Rear:

Front:

And the first two options are just the ring and pinion...

 

[broncosor]

No, you would just need the first two! Badlands already has the M210 front diff, 3rd option with 4.7 gearing, and all Bronco's have the M220 rear axle.

Since I have a Black Diamond on order, I will have to buy the 3rd option for 4.7 and to be able to get the beefier front diff. I believe there is a 4.7 ring and pinion for the M190 in the accessory list but I would upgrade the diff too. If and when I upgrade the gears, I will probably just go up to the 5.18 or 5.38 gear sets.

The 3rd and 4th options include the axle housings...
Rear:

Front:

And the first two options are just the ring and pinion...

Thank you

 

[BenBronco]

No, you would just need the first two! Badlands already has the M210 front diff, 3rd option with 4.7 gearing, and all Bronco's have the M220 rear axle.

Since I have a Black Diamond on order, I will have to buy the 3rd option for 4.7 and to be able to get the beefier front diff. I believe there is a 4.7 ring and pinion for the M190 in the accessory list but I would upgrade the diff too. If and when I upgrade the gears, I will probably just go up to the 5.18 or 5.38 gear sets.

The 3rd and 4th options include the axle housings...
Rear:

Front:

And the first two options are just the ring and pinion...

I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the 4.7 rear end is only included on the BL with the manual transmission or Sasquach. OP says he is getting automatic transmission.

 

[orion]

I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the 4.7 rear end is only included on the BL with the manual transmission or Sasquach. OP says he is getting automatic transmission.

Correct! Thus the OP's question on what they would need to buy to get 4.7 gearing from the 4 choices they listed. All they would need is the Ring and Pinion gear kits, front and rear.

Edited my first post a little due to possibly confusing the situation on how i worded things.

 

[TRACKTOY]

Check the price directly with SPICER, For install you can check with DYNATRAK cie. It's about the same price for install and adjust than buy the part. You need the ring gear be professionnaly install.
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[Firefly]

You do not “have to have” 4.7 gears for 35s. The 4.46 will be perfectly fine w/ the 2.7 and 10speed.

I DD my f150, 55 miles round trip to work at speeds of 70-80mph w/ a 2k foot elevation climb. 10speed w/ the 3.5EB here at higher altitude, climb from 6k-10k regularly with 35” MT tires and can pass any non-sports car I please and holds the gears very well, with only the max tow package 3.55 gears.

I agree. Spending money to go from 4.46 to 4.7 just to go from 33s to 35s is totally unnecessary.

 

[Gamecock]

I agree. Spending money to go from 4.46 to 4.7 just to go from 33s to 35s is totally unnecessary.

Probably “unnecessary” for most people due to the cost...but certainly not optimal to stay with the shorter gears. Run the calculator, there is definitely a difference that will be felt.

 

[Thed]

You'd need a pair of ring & pinion kits, installation kits (comes with shims and the like), and a gear shop to professionally install them.

 

[Burndog]

Let’s say I buy an Auto Badlands 4 door with 33 tires and in a year I decide I want 35 tires and want to switch to 4.7 ratio to have the proper gearing for those tires
What would be the cost?

In the accessory list there is:

Dana 44 4.7 Ring and Pinion kit - $365
M210 4.7 Ring gear and pinion kit - $365
M201 FDU 4.7 ratio - $1800
M220 rear axle assembly with 4.70 ratio - $2,275

Do I need all those 4 items to have 4.7 ratio on a 4 Door Badlands with Auto transmition? Or just the 2 ring and pinion kit? Or anything else? And how much would be the installation cost approximately?
I don‘t know anything about this, sorry for being dumb.

I had a Jeep TJ with 35s and 4.55 gears and it brought it back to stock, as far as speed/rpm. If you left the 4.46 in place and went to 35s, you'd want to update the speedo to reflect the larger tires. The vehicle will feel like it has longer gears so won't get off the line quite so fast but your top end RPMs will be lower and should translate to better gas mileage on long highway drives.

It's not a bad option but if you price 5 -35s of comparable performance you'll spend ~$1200 on tires alone (Goodyear Territory/Duratrac/BF Goodrich). You'll then need wheels (not sure cost). If you take that into consideration, to me, you might as well spend the extra couple hundred bucks for Squatch and get the 4.7 gears.
You also have to think that Ford tested this vehicle with those 4.46 gears and 33s and 4.7 gears on 35s. That's important because their tests include requirements and targets for stability on both road and trail as well as how their onboard electronic stability control (engine RPM, brakes, with different GOAT modes). You could then even go to 37s with 4.7 gears (but that's a different set of trade offs).

So is getting the vehicle, possibly, sooner worth the cost of upgrading later and not getting the gears intended with this vehlcle for 35s? Do you also want in the back of your head that you are running 4.46 gears on 35s when 4.7 would be give you better performance? Your call

 

[BenBronco]

Correct! Thus the OP's question on what they would need to buy to get 4.7 gearing from the 4 choices they listed. All they would need is the Ring and Pinion gear kits, front and rear.

Edited my first post a little due to possibly confusing the situation on how i worded things.

My fault. I read the post wrong. We are on the same page!

 

[broncosor]

I had a Jeep TJ with 35s and 4.55 gears and it brought it back to stock, as far as speed/rpm. If you left the 4.46 in place and went to 35s, you'd want to update the speedo to reflect the larger tires. The vehicle will feel like it has longer gears so won't get off the line quite so fast but your top end RPMs will be lower and should translate to better gas mileage on long highway drives.

It's not a bad option but if you price 5 -35s of comparable performance you'll spend ~$1200 on tires alone (Goodyear Territory/Duratrac/BF Goodrich). You'll then need wheels (not sure cost). If you take that into consideration, to me, you might as well spend the extra couple hundred bucks for Squatch and get the 4.7 gears.
You also have to think that Ford tested this vehicle with those 4.46 gears and 33s and 4.7 gears on 35s. That's important because their tests include requirements and targets for stability on both road and trail as well as how their onboard electronic stability control (engine RPM, brakes, with different GOAT modes). You could then even go to 37s with 4.7 gears (but that's a different set of trade offs).

So is getting the vehicle, possibly, sooner worth the cost of upgrading later and not getting the gears intended with this vehlcle for 35s? Do you also want in the back of your head that you are running 4.46 gears on 35s when 4.7 would be give you better performance? Your call

you can fit 35 tires on the OG wheels. I checked and a 8in wheel will fit a 35 tire

But I am not saying Sasquatch isn’t a good deal. It’s just that I don’t think I need 35 thus I would like to get the 33s plus I want a roof rack (can’t order with Sasquatch). Like everybody I change my mind sometimes and maybe a year down the road I will want bigger tires, that’s why I prefer to have a good picture now of what cost it would be.

Thanks all for responding to my initial question. It’s now clear.

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