Drunk Sensor ?

[Tdub0527]

2024 models are on the lot without the drunk sensor you are talking about. So you should be in the clear to buy one.

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[Muffin Top]

They began the gaslighting by saying that they don't respond to "haters." Because anyone who disagrees is a "hater." Basically they're saying they can't tolerate differing views.

 

[Muffin Top]

Thanks for letting me know about the 2024 models !


Unfortunately, my question is a complicated one. I'm trying to delay my purchase for as long as possible, because I have some old trucks that will be good for at least a couple more years.

 

[Shazamalingo]

No one is gaslighting you. We just don’t see any evidence of these defects. Why should we take your word for it?

 

[Muffin Top]

More gaslighting - we don't care what you believe

 

[Shazamalingo]

More gaslighting - we don't care what you believe

I don’t think that word means what you think it means lol

 

[PrepVet]

First I've heard of this exploratory funding and search to make a technology that can be mandated. What an awful idea, but that is no surprise from the federal government, no matter who is there.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/transportation/2023/12/12/nhtsa-drunk-driving-technology-mandate/

 

[Muffin Top]

Thanks for the article, that's a good one. My fear is that Ford's CEO may follow through with his suggestion of deploying this before it's required.

 

[nolimits]

Pretty sure this was @Muffin Top on his way to the liquor store….in his vehicles without those new fangled drunk sensors.

 

[Muffin Top]

Basically they're saying they can't tolerate differing views

 

[DriveAllNight]

This thread is a sociopolitical bomb ready to go off, with that said, and no offense to anyone, here is my 2 cents.

The cost of this has got to be expensive. If anything it should be 100% subsidized by either the sale of alcohol or better yet, fines from drunk drivers.

Mouthwash can prevent you from starting your car.

Any malfunction with this sensor can turn your car into a brick. And there are always going to be a few bad ones in the batch.

This is a problem that could be solved with better education and an effective punishment and treatment for offenders. I realize we are not there yet, but I'm all about fixing the problem and not the symptoms.

There is no way that aftermarket products won't find a way to defeat this tech within months of it being implemented.

People who know better than to drive drunk are inconvenienced and people who drive drunk will get around it.

This shouldn't have to be something imposed on everyone.

With all that said, I am not in anyway promoting drinking and driving, but I don't believe this is the answer.
I'm also betting no one is making them mandatory on buses, 18 wheelers, trains, planes and ships, let alone motorcycles or jet skies. But that's another discussion.

And with all that said, I'm betting Ford and every other manufacturer will wait until they absolutely have to implement this because buyers will buy something else if they can to avoid dealing with it.

edit - adding because I'm still thinking about this:

There are many days I'm running errands and I'm getting in and out, starting and stopping engine. Will I have to breath into a tube every time? Easily could be over a half a dozen times a day with my schedule. Really annoying in the morning going to work, stopping for gas, coffee, maybe a bagel every time breath in tube .... nope still not drunk, car.
Pick daughter up from school, stop by parents house - still not drunk.

This tube will get full of nasty smelling bacteria fast, not to mention spreading sickness, when family member takes it for a ride, so now we need disposable tubes to buy on a regular basis - that doesn't sound ecofriendly - so much for global warming. Thinking about the maker of the Kcups who realized the amazing amount of landfill he inadvertently created. Seriously, think about the millions of cars on the road every day and all those tubes they have to breath into.

Plus what are these tubes going to cost? So the price of driving just went up along with landfill and probably idiots littering the roadways with tubes like smokers tossing cigarettes.

 

[Muffin Top]

Thanks for the encouragement. I wish I could be as optimistic as you are about Ford not deploying this before it's required.

 

[Haelous]

More gaslighting - we don't care what you believe

 

[Figmo]

Basically they're saying they can't tolerate differing views

One thing I’ve learned about non-drinkers:

1. They think anybody who drinks is speeding through a school zone at 8am. Bottle of whiskey in one hand, wheel in the other. Laughing manically and hell bent on running over an 9 year old.

2. They all claim “But I do drink! I just drink responsibly.” Implying, of course, that you do not just because you disagree with them.

3. You really can’t even have this discussion with them. To them, there is good (them) and there is evil (you). Naturally, what with evil being evil and all….it is not deserving of respect nor civility. Because…well because it’s evil. What more do you need?

 

[Muffin Top]

It never ceases to amaze me how effective that tinfoil picture tactic is.


Let's think about this. People literally have no greater fear than being considered uncool. So the only thing they have to do to suppress discussion is to show a picture of tinfoil.

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