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Respectfully disagree 100%. The markups on the entire Shelby line were astronomical for an extended period of time. Markups, if any, on the Gladiator were short lived as they weren’t selling. And Vipers...that’s such a limited production. That’s a super car. Hardly comparable to a $55k Shelby 350. Nationwide, Ford takes the cake.
1 car vs many ok
 

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Okay, let me help you out. GT350, GT350R, Focus RS, GT, Raptor...

Let me expand even further. In terms of total ADM dollars, Ford in the past five years exceeds any other manufacturer. How about the fact that Ford even came out with a statement attempting to control the pricing of the Bronco. Okay? :)
 

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Jeep had a segment of the market primarily for itself, but now it has some competition, that's all. Of course they concerned about sharing what was their's. Its not fear, its deep competitive concern.
 

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As I see this Ford has not challenged Wrangler other then being a convertible SUV. I would loved to seen a solid front axle option and without this FCA is smiling. After owing many IFS and SFAs there is not much of a comparison IMO. The more video clips on the Bronco wheeling the more it bring back memories of the IFS major short coming. I really really want to like this vehicle but.....
 

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As I see this Ford has not challenged Wrangler other then being a convertible SUV. I would loved to seen a solid front axle option and without this FCA is smiling. After owing many IFS and SFAs there is not much of a comparison IMO. The more video clips on the Bronco wheeling the more it bring back memories of the IFS major short coming. I really really want to like this vehicle but.....
I like to drive at higher speeds than 60 mph, on the highway without a death wobble, so I'm smiling. My son has issues on the highway, especially at highway speeds, going downhill in his Jeep.
 

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As I see this Ford has not challenged Wrangler other then being a convertible SUV. I would loved to seen a solid front axle option and without this FCA is smiling. After owing many IFS and SFAs there is not much of a comparison IMO. The more video clips on the Bronco wheeling the more it bring back memories of the IFS major short coming. I really really want to like this vehicle but.....
I have also owned both SFA and independent suspensions and still own both. FCA is not smiling. They now have to fight the ford bronco and there own jeep fans. They are backed against the fence getting knees and kicks to the face at the same time. People that want a great ride with a removable top will go to the bronco. And that will be a lot. Then they will have to toy with the idea of ifs again. Now making there base angry. Ford is raining all over there wedding day and stealing the bride to boot. It is looking dismal for jeep right now.
 

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I still think ford should stamp an american flag onto the panel of the car because its actually made in america
Unfortunately I just read something yesterday about production being in Mexico. Maybe that was for the sport only....don't remember.
 

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(and even the tiny coyote pisses all over even a 2.7 ECO while this is happening).
I've looked all over and I can't find video or data demonstrating this. Has someone published 0-30mph times or a 5-60mph time that would negate the brake-torque launch? How can someone quantitatively demonstrate this advantage?

You also get severe throttle manipulation on ecoboosts trying to build boost, you do not need on coyote's and up. It ALL adds up to delays.
This is true, though in my experience it's less about building boost and more about limiting it up top. A good tune is widely reported to improve this.
 
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