Lobo Off-Road HNT Hidden Winch Skid For Bronco

[Hatman]

Every few days I come back to this thread and re-read the whole thing, then check the website just in case I missed something. Just dreaming of the day when I can finally mount that winch that’s been sitting in my house for months.

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[Lobo Off-Road]

Every few days I come back to this thread and re-read the whole thing, then check the website just in case I missed something. Just dreaming of the day when I can finally mount that winch that’s been sitting in my house for months.

I hear you. With that being said, a unfortunate update. The OE heat exchanger will not work with OE intercooler. I brainstormed many configuration, but when it comes down to it, there i simply not enough room between the winch, intercooler shroud, and engine accessories.

Solutions being worked on.
1) Mishimoto or comparable set up intercooler/ intercooler relocation, this will allow myself to relocate the OE heat exchanger on top/in front of the winch ( where the intercooler use to be)

2) aftermarket heat exchanger that will fit within the parameters

3) Independent transmission cooler kit

 

[Hatman]

I hear you. With that being said, a unfortunate update. The OE heat exchanger will not work with OE intercooler. I brainstormed many configuration, but when it comes down to it, there i simply not enough room between the winch, intercooler shroud, and engine accessories.

Solutions being worked on.
1) Mishimoto or comparable set up intercooler/ intercooler relocation, this will allow myself to relocate the OE heat exchanger on top/in front of the winch ( where the intercooler use to be)

2) aftermarket heat exchanger that will fit within the parameters

3) Independent transmission cooler kit

I’m happy moving and/or swapping out any components that need altered. I think people who don’t want a bumper mounted winch, for whatever reason, will be willing to take on whatever it takes to get a quality hidden winch mount. Keep up the hard work and I can’t wait to see the final product!

 

[Lobo Off-Road]

I’m happy moving and/or swapping out any components that need altered. I think people who don’t want a bumper mounted winch, for whatever reason, will be willing to take on whatever it takes to get a quality hidden winch mount. Keep up the hard work and I can’t wait to see the final product!

Thank you for your patience, Will keep you guys updated as I make more progress.

 

[redone17]

Thank you for your patience, Will keep you guys updated as I make more progress.

Is that just referring to the 2.7L?

2.3L is working and available, correct?

 

[Lobo Off-Road]

Is that just referring to the 2.7L?

2.3L is working and available, correct?

correct, the 2.3 is in stock.

 

[swooshdave]

I hear you. With that being said, a unfortunate update. The OE heat exchanger will not work with OE intercooler. I brainstormed many configuration, but when it comes down to it, there i simply not enough room between the winch, intercooler shroud, and engine accessories.

Solutions being worked on.
1) Mishimoto or comparable set up intercooler/ intercooler relocation, this will allow myself to relocate the OE heat exchanger on top/in front of the winch ( where the intercooler use to be)

2) aftermarket heat exchanger that will fit within the parameters

3) Independent transmission cooler kit

Would a smaller winch work?
RC made it work. Which of their compromises do you hate the least?

 

[Lobo Off-Road]

Would a smaller winch work?
RC made it work. Which of their compromises do you hate the least?

The limiting factor/ difference between the RC skid and our skid is the approach angle. The RC skid base is flat with the bottom of the crossmember, the distance of the winch, prior to angling up towards the bumper. Our skid instantly angles up from the lower a arm crossmember. Because of this the winch is mounted higher, is the causing the restrictions. I have measured the evo ( much smaller than the zeon) and it is relatively the same height, just narrower.

 

[swooshdave]

The limiting factor/ difference between the RC skid and our skid is the approach angle. The RC skid base is flat with the bottom of the crossmember, the distance of the winch, prior to angling up towards the bumper. Our skid instantly angles up from the lower a arm crossmember. Because of this the winch is mounted higher, is the causing the restrictions. I have measured the evo ( much smaller than the zeon) and it is relatively the same height, just narrower.

So what I hear is that you’re not willing to compromise the approach angle even if it effectively kills your 2.7 market?

 

[35tires]

So what I hear is that you’re not willing to compromise the approach angle even if it effectively kills your 2.7 market?

You're awful spicy over decisions a company that you don't own or run make.

I am taking this as 'do it right or don't do it until you figure it out properly' from a company with a good reputation and, if I remember right, is a fairly modest scale operation.

 

[swooshdave]

You're awful spicy over decisions a company that you don't own or run make.

I am taking this as 'do it right or don't do it until you figure it out properly' from a company with a good reputation and, if I remember right, is a fairly modest scale operation.

Don’t take it as spice, just as feedback.

I’m just hoping someone with better QC than RC steps up with a solution. But I’m afraid that Lobo has painted themselves into a corner regarding the 2.7.

 

[35tires]

Don’t take it as spice, just as feedback.

I’m just hoping someone with better QC than RC steps up with a solution. But I’m afraid that Lobo has painted themselves into a corner regarding the 2.7.

I agree, if another company wants to come in, with approach angle and clearance not being a concern, I hope they make something that works for that purpose.

It's also not my company, but it seems like Lobo has a different vision than just 'make a winch under there' for their goal and I dig that.

 

[mcinfantry]

Don’t take it as spice, just as feedback.

I’m just hoping someone with better QC than RC steps up with a solution. But I’m afraid that Lobo has painted themselves into a corner regarding the 2.7.

You painted yourself in the corner with your choice of vehicle and engine.

there is a viable solution
The RC WORKS. You choose not to use it

I chose not to use it

 

[swooshdave]

You painted yourself in the corner with your choice of vehicle and engine.

there is a viable solution
The RC WORKS. You choose not to use it

I chose not to use it

I didn’t say I wasn’t going to use the RC, but with limited options it may be the only choice.

 

[Lobo Off-Road]

@35tires Thank you for recognizing the vision to create quality products that are not like every other company building bronco parts.

Addressing @swooshdave comments, the last post that was made on this forum was addressing a question why the winch size was not a factor in the packaging. I have not thrown in the towel of the 2.7 kit. Multiple 2.7 packages will be available, it just may require more mods than originally thought. Things may come across in a negative way, due to myself attempting to be straightforward on what is going on and providing a honest status of the product, whether it is positive or negative.
Answering your original question, no I will not compromise the approach angle of my product, while having three packaging options in the works. One of the many goals is to ADD options for the bronco community to choose from and not just add the same product that is already on the market by another company.
Like I have mentioned on other product " My philosophy is to make the best product I know how and the cost is based off of my cost to manufacturing the product. My product maybe not for everyone and I understand that and respect that, However if I knew I could make something better and didn't, to save a dollar or so, I would have a hard time standing behind the brand and product."

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