@KermitBronco ULTIMATE Badlands Build

[omi205]

In all seriousness…what is your take on the fox 2.5 PE?

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[BigMeatsBronco]

These are 37" Nitto Trail Grapplers which is all pretty much all I need for now at least and things get super heavy past that. We re-geared to 4.88. Warning to those upgrading front axle to Dana 44 Ultimate. That comes in a variety of gearings but choose wisely. The rear Dana 60 has fewer choices and jumps from 4.88 to 5.29!

You mean 5.38s not 5.29

Excellent build, I have the ultimate 60 and Ultimate FDU 44 as well. great choices.
the U60 only added about 110lbs to my little 2dr...

 

[KermitBronco]

In all seriousness…what is your take on the fox 2.5 PE?

1. On a positive note, I'll share my LOVE for the DSC ability. It's what sets Fox apart from competitors. It varies a lot! Best explanation I know is this video from highly respected Accutune (who also sell a ton of King):
2. On the negative side, the High Speed adjustment is super insanely tight and difficult to increase. I need gloves to do it. Way too difficult.
3. Depending on your rig, be prepared to need to change the springs which is another ~$700 (plus labor). So, budget accordingly (and same is true of King, Icon, etc.). One spring rate does not cover all.
4. Fresh start today, I'd go with the new 3.0 but I recognize that may not be in everyone's budget. Note - Fox Engineers made it clear that the 3.0 share the EXACT same springs with the 2.5. So, when we move to 3.0, we'll just port our 500/300 pound springs to the next units. Hope this helps.

 

[omi205]

1. On a positive note, I'll share my LOVE for the DSC ability. It what sets Fox apart from competitors. It varies a lot! Best explanation I know is this video from highly respected Accutune (who also sell a ton of King):
2. On the negative side, the High Speed adjustment is super insanely tight and difficult to increase. I need gloves to do it. Way too difficult.
3. Depending on your rig, be prepared to need to change the springs which is another ~$700 (plus labor). So, budget accordingly (and same is true of King, Icon, etc.). One spring rate does not cover all.
4. Fresh start today, I'd go with the new 3.0 but I recognize that may not be in everyone's budget. Note - Fox Engineers made it clear that the 3.0 share the EXACT same springs with the 2.5. So, when we move to 3.0, we'll just port our 500/300 pound springs to the next units. Hope this helps.

Def helps. Much appreciated. Minus the rci skids and rock sliders…my rig is stock. So probably about 200-250lbs in addition to the bronco stock weight. Would hope not to have to upgrade the springs but if needed it makes sense.

 

[Baja Bronco]

Great build, nicely done.

 

[Valhalla]

These are 37" Nitto Trail Grapplers which is all pretty much all I need for now at least and things get super heavy past that. We re-geared to 4.88. Warning to those upgrading front axle to Dana 44 Ultimate. That comes in a variety of gearings but choose wisely. The rear Dana 60 has fewer choices and jumps from 4.88 to 5.38!

If you want to keep near the Stock 4.7 at a 34" tire you'd need about a 5.13. I am thinking 39.5 swamper TSLs so a 5.38 is actually where I want to go.

 

[F-Spot]

Kind words! I'm in Manhattan Beach. Will be at United by Bronco all 3 days.

Did you add a body lift? what size?

 

[swamp2]

Fantastic build.

 

[KermitBronco]

Did you add a body lift? what size?

Great eye!
As a stop-gap measure for our 37", we used the BroncBuster 3" body lift kit first on the stock Bilstein shocks and then with the Fox 2.5 which were under sprung for our weight. They served their purpose but it was a wee bit scary on off-camber stuff. It is also why I've refrained from posting until now - I didn't love the look.
The before w/ 3" body lift and droopy rear and then after with no body lift really shows how preferable it is to have properly calibrated coil-overs.

 

[autodemic]

We got it weighed and confirmed we added ~1,500 pounds.

My Badlands Sasquatch 2.7 Hardtop only has 929 lbs of cargo capacity including occupants. I would assume yours would be nearly identical. Is that 1,500 lbs a typo or am I missing something here? If that doesn’t include passengers you are easily hitting double the cargo capacity rating.

 

[Haelous]

Are those aftermarket wheel well liners?

 

[Scoop]

Very nice build!

 

[KermitBronco]

Are those aftermarket wheel well liners?

Stock liners for now - rear are stock and front we had to cut out the felt liners. Waiting on American Adventure Lab to release liners for Bronco. Their Jeep liners are considered best-in-class.

 

[KermitBronco]

My Badlands Sasquatch 2.7 Hardtop only has 929 lbs of cargo capacity including occupants. I would assume yours would be nearly identical. Is that 1,500 lbs a typo or am I missing something here? If that doesn’t include passengers you are easily hitting double the cargo capacity rating.

Ha, ha, ha - no typo. Since this is public forum, I'll offer this - I worked with a bunch of engineers at Ford Performance, Dana and Fox. 90% of the weight is down super low (steel bash plates, rock sliders, Dana 60, Dana 44, Spicer XTreme splines, 37" wheels, RTR rear bumper, hitch, Eibach springs, etc.). And a bunch of that weight is unsprung. The only weight up top is the AAL storage which isn't that heavy, the Dometic Fridge and 60 pounds of Dakota Lithium batteries + RedArc electronics and the TrailRax rack and lightweight Heretic Studio lights.

 

[autodemic]

Ha, ha, ha - no typo.

Yikes.

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