Ford Patents for ultra-surveillance/data collection in vehicles

[3ljfsoi85rd]

Anyone seen this one yet?

Big Brother will be watching.

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[cbrenthus]

Link just takes me to a bunch of Reddit threads

 

[Nc211]

I live in the data center capital of the world. They are literally destroying this county, and are now spreading out across the country. I've also financed a couple over the last few years and have written white papers on them. These facilities are as large as automotive manufacturing plants. People say I'm tin foil hat guy, but I promise you I'm not. We are literally allowing this country to follow the China model for social scoring. There will be a file with a number on it (your identification number). Everything you type, everything you say that gets picked up by AI devices, every image of you, will be recorded and put into that folder (that...is the "data" in these data centers). A street camera catches you j-walking, it logs the infraction into your file, and your social score takes a hit. You save kittens in your spare time, you feed the homeless, you save the planet, but you get caught j-walking and your score drops below the minimum required for your job....guess what.. 60 Minutes ran this exact story a FEW years ago as already happening in China. They don't have 3 credit reporting agencies like we do. They have one. And now we have lobbies groups advocating to do just that! The latest - the Mortgage Bankers Association under the disguise of making it easier to get a mortgage to buy a home! Literally, the "American dream" and the most personal possession and #1 creator of personal wealth in this country - 1 credit score.

Call me tin foil hat guy all you want. Don't believe me, don't take me seriously. But....I have seen with my own eyes many many times where I live, US Gov license plates on the back of Chevy SUV's sitting inside the gates of these data centers that are all over the place where I live. Just like it's no coincidence that Amazon's HQ2 location is literally across the street from the US Pentagon, the concentration of data centers in this country all live within a 30 minute drive of every spy agency we know of. Additionally, why do you think there is such a strong push to get everyone to upgrade their devices to be AI friendly? All of these new cellphone plans where they basically give you a free iPhone 17 for signing up. They're just trying to push the AI devices further into your life.

Wherever you live, if you're seeing data center applications pop up in your community, you better get involved with the local planning and zoning folks to block them. They are now spanning out to sit on the edges of metropolitan areas to just sit there and collect data on the community. HUGE money in these things initially. $1.6m per acre purchase price for my area. We own about 500 acres 30 minutes outside of Raleigh, NC that has naturally fed water and power at the street. They're all over us to sell to them. Despite the multi-generational wealth figures they're throwing around, we've had that land in this family since before 1800, and will never sell any of it to a data center. We lease it to local farmers who pay the property taxes only for it. One day soon, as my retirement, we are going to peel off 150 of those acres for our retirement home. There is no way I want to die looking at one of those damn things, while it logs my internet activity via the Tommy & Pam video!

My electric bill in December - $713.

 

[the quietman]

You are 100% correct. I have the place i will never move from. I'm not ever in need of a loan. I have my own water, power and food supply.
Once I retire in July I'm throwing my smart phone in the river. My hat size is 7-5/8......takes almost a whole roll of Reynolds wrap....

 

[TPadden72]

They are literally destroying this county...

We literally have a different understanding of the meaning of the word "literally".

""Literally" means in a strict, exact sense, without exaggeration".

Tom

 

[5POINT56]

Here’s a YouTube vid that runs through each of these various Ford patents.

Very Orwellian and there is no way in hell I’d buy ANY vehicle with this stuff.

 

[GeoBig]

Could this technology be installed in, or simply activated on, normal consumer vehicles? Technically, yes. But in practice, that seems unlikely. There would be significant legal and privacy hurdles, including operator consent, data-retention concerns, and liability issues. Beyond that, it would be difficult for law enforcement to justify taking enforcement action based solely on evidence collected by an unaffiliated private citizen’s vehicle.

You're delusional if you don't think all of these AI data centers, flock cameras, and Big Brother features in everything around us won't someday be used to manage our behavior, movements, and ability to conduct commerce. Ever read the books of Daniel and/or Revelation? Yeah, you'll be controlled, whether you want to be or not.

 

[TPadden72]

Yeah, you'll be controlled, whether you want to be or not.

Yeah, but Amazon will be able to deliver what you want to wherever you are before you order it. "Alexa, get me out of here."

Tom

 

[5POINT56]

I’ll just add this and then exit the chat: people give the government far more credit for technical capabilities than it deserves. This thread started with “Big Brother is watching” and will likely keep drifting down the conspiracy path, unfortunately.

The reality is that corporations have led the charge on mass data collection, gathering information and selling access to it for profit - not the government. Does the government take interest in that data and sometimes purchase access to it? Certainly. But it’s usually far less sinister than people imagine and driven more by business incentives, quarterly earnings, and returns to investors.

I worked for a credit bureau years ago, and when we decided to enter the traffic-camera data collection business, no one from the government was calling us asking for it. It was simply a business decision to collect and sell more data to insurance companies.

I think you greatly underestimate the governments desire and ability to surveil and control Americans on a massive scale. History is filled with examples of this. Not just isolated examples but entire government institutions and agencies built around this interest globally. The Patriot Act was supposed to be a temporary measure following 9/11. Nothing temporary about it though. And, one of the reasons this is being put forth right now in congress. Try to come up with a few good reasons as to why ANY member of Congress would oppose this and then watch how they vote.

The Government Surveillance reform Act

The Government Surveillance Reform Act represents the most comprehensive reform of surveillance laws in nearly half a century. The bill reauthorizes Section 702 for four years with necessary privacy reforms and constitutional safeguards, including:

• Closing the backdoor search loophole: The bill requires the federal government to get a warrant to access Americans’ private communications gathered under Section 702, with important exceptions for emergency situations.
• Closing the data broker loophole: The bill bans the federal government from buying Americans’ data from data brokers without a warrant.
• Prohibiting reverse targeting: The bill prohibits using surveillance on foreigners overseas through Section 702 as a pretext for gathering data on Americans.
• Repealing the “make everyone a spy” provision: This bill repeals a controversial 2024 expansion that allows the government to force millions of Americans and companies to secretly spy on its behalf.
• Reforming intelligence collection outside FISA: This bill protects Americans from intelligence agencies using non-statutory authorities, including by prohibiting backdoor searches and reverse targeting outside of FISA.
• Updating privacy protections for AI and other modern technologies: This bill requires federal law enforcement to get a warrant to surveil Americans’ location information, web browsing data, search and chatbot records, and car onboard and telematics data.
• Halting warrantless collection of business records: This bill protects Americans’ data from warrantless collection under an authority that expired over five years ago.
• Enhancing oversight and accountability: The bill strengthens judicial oversight, public reporting, and accountability requirements under FISA.

And when government itself lacks the technological know-how, they’ll just outsource that interest to the private sector.

https://theconversation.com/when-th...y-palantir-is-mapping-the-nations-data-263178

 

[Nc211]

I’ll just add this and then exit the chat: people give the government far more credit for technical capabilities than it deserves. This thread started with “Big Brother is watching” and will likely keep drifting down the conspiracy path, unfortunately.

The reality is that corporations have led the charge on mass data collection, gathering information and selling access to it for profit - not the government. Does the government take interest in that data and sometimes purchase access to it? Certainly. But it’s usually far less sinister than people imagine and driven more by business incentives, quarterly earnings, and returns to investors.

I worked for a credit bureau years ago, and when we decided to enter the traffic-camera data collection business, no one from the government was calling us asking for it. It was simply a business decision to collect and sell more data to insurance companies.

I agree 100%, but the corporation aspect is even worse, as it's not subjected to the same scrutiny oversight as the government entities. It's a key reason why there are so many 3rd party "contractors". It's not the agency of data management creating and managing the cloud services for the CIA and DoD. It's Amazon, Oracle , Microsoft, Google, etc. Those are the names we all know, highly recognizable. Who is filling up these data centers are these outfits called (for example) stuff like Cloud Grass, Xtech, TXData, etc.... Nobody recognizes those names. Nobody knows what they do. Who owns them and from where? Read their websites and it is all sanitized with buzzwords of the week from LinkedIn. They're all data miners. Collect the data, sell the data to the highest bidder. There is a company here that I am willing to bet the owner/operator of this very website knows about. There is an online bidding war for the advertising space to your right that happens in split seconds, driven heavily by your browser data history. They pay to take up space for a brief period on a website.

My point - the OP and that message on Reddit are not wrong, and is exactly where we're heading as a country now. The more "data" they collect, the more ways it will be cultivated, managed, analyzed, twisted, and used to monitor and manage the population. After 9/11 we introduced the Patriot Act to help see what was going on in the civilian cyberspace to protect us. Catch an attack in the planning stages, as we experienced the birth of the dot.com era. Remember that stuff? The backlash of the "Meta data"? We are now sharing our lives, literally, on a website owned by a company called "Meta" - aka - Facebook. We're just handing it all over to whomever.

My wife was scanning the things we bought at the grocery store a few weeks ago. I asked her why. She said she found an app that will pay us a few bucks to share what we bought. Pitched as a "coupon app". I immediately deleted it. Said why would anyone be willing to pay you to tell them what you're buying to eat. Who owns it? Hypothetical, fast forward 3 years, and you end up with a bad colonoscopy diagnosis. Your insurance company denies the claim. Notes poor diet. How did they know?

A guy takes a shot at Trump in Pennsylvania. Somehow the media learns of all the websites and google searches he had performed during the months leading up to the event. How?

It's been reported the "My Radar" app on your phone, if you have location services turned on, is already recording how you drive. State Farm is a known buyer of that data on you from them.

Ok, enough tin foil for me today. It's Sunday, I've had my 2 cups of coffee, and time to shank some bitches at Costco for a couple of $5 chickens.

 

[Nc211]

One last one - for you Google Earth people. You want to see what I'm talking about? Type in this address into Google Earth and take a street tour. This is just one of about 50 in my area that has popped up over the last 7 years or so.

21955 Loudoun County Parkway, Ashburn, VA

 

[TPadden72]

One last one - for you Google Earth people. You want to see what I'm talking about?
21955 Loudoun County Parkway, Ashburn, VA

Then go to the Lost Rhino Brewing Company next door to feel better.

Tom

 

[Koss_co]

One last one - for you Google Earth people. You want to see what I'm talking about? Type in this address into Google Earth and take a street tour. This is just one of about 50 in my area that has popped up over the last 7 years or so.

21955 Loudoun County Parkway, Ashburn, VA

Holy crap. The amount of cooling on all those buildings.

 

[dpAtlanta]

 

[Doc TOC]

Does anyone have panel spray? I see conspiracies coming out of the woodwork.

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