Bronco Raptor vs Jeep 392 Comparison [TFL]

[csj]

I think a non-XR 392 is around 5100 lbs, isn't the BR about 5700 lbs? I agree though the BR, even being so much heavier, will probably be a better high speed machine.

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[FirstOnRaceDay]

I think a non-XR 392 is around 5100 lbs, isn't the BR about 5700 lbs? I agree though the BR, even being so much heavier, will probably be a better high speed machine.

382 XR is likely 5200+
then if you want 37s (2” lift) and dana 50 in the rear it will likely be 5500+
And im willing to bet the BR will have a better weight split.

 

[HeliPilot]

Yep. Getting 10-12 with the 35s. Probably 9-11 when the 37s go on. And it’s 100% worth it. I’ve got a Ram TRX on order too. Long live the V8!

But like I said, I am definitely eyeing a 23’ or 24’ Bronco Raptor. I think a color matched hard top/fenders would look awesome. Throw true 37s on it and call it good. BFG 37s aren’t true 37s…more like 35.5-36s. They run small. Clever marketing by Ford though!

My TRX averaged 9.8. Not hard to get it into the 7's either.

 

[FirstOnRaceDay]

What the Bronco Raptor has thats better than the Wrangler 392 Recon
$70,000 vs $82,000
Turbos vs N/A
Rear dana 50 with 4.70 vs Dana 44 with 4.56
Active fox shocks vs standard fox shocks
73” track width vs 64”
37” tires vs 34.4”

what the wrangler has better
~10% more stock LBFT. (Est)
lower low range gearing
3.06 vs 4.00

What would you rather have?

 

[FirstOnRaceDay]

Yep. Getting 10-12 with the 35s. Probably 9-11 when the 37s go on. And it’s 100% worth it. I’ve got a Ram TRX on order too. Long live the V8!

But like I said, I am definitely eyeing a 23’ or 24’ Bronco Raptor. I think a color matched hard top/fenders would look awesome. Throw true 37s on it and call it good. BFG 37s aren’t true 37s…more like 35.5-36s. They run small. Clever marketing by Ford though!

Official tire size
36.5” diameter
12.5” width
10.1” tread width.

vs 392 recon or bronco Sasquatch “35”
34.4” diameter
9.5” width
8” tread width

thats still
2.2” taller and 2” wider

 

[AK SNO RIDER]

Confused on why we can't acknowledge two bad ass trucks?

The fRaptor and the TRX are cool too but I'm not sure why we need to acknowledge them on the Bronco forum?

 

[HeliPilot]

What the Bronco Raptor has thats better than the Wrangler 392 Recon
$70,000 vs $82,000
Turbos vs N/A
Rear dana 50 with 4.70 vs Dana 44 with 4.56
Active fox shocks vs standard fox shocks
73” track width vs 64”
37” tires vs 34.4”

what the wrangler has better
~10% more stock LBFT. (Est)
lower low range gearing
3.06 vs 4.00

What would you rather have?

I know for sure that I can get a 392 Recon OTD for $77,000. Thats tax title and tags. One will be hard pressed to find a Braptor for under $90K, no matter what MSRP is.

 

[wilbersk]

Yep. Getting 10-12 with the 35s. Probably 9-11 when the 37s go on. And it’s 100% worth it. I’ve got a Ram TRX on order too. Long live the V8!

But like I said, I am definitely eyeing a 23’ or 24’ Bronco Raptor. I think a color matched hard top/fenders would look awesome. Throw true 37s on it and call it good. BFG 37s aren’t true 37s…more like 35.5-36s. They run small. Clever marketing by Ford though!

They’re 36.5”

 

[FirstOnRaceDay]

I know for sure that I can get a 392 Recon OTD for $77,000. Thats tax title and tags. One will be hard pressed to find a Braptor for under $90K, no matter what MSRP is.

i was going purely on MSRP.
2022 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon 392 with Xtreme Recon, Head liner, front camera, and doors off mirrors is officially $82,000 MSRP

2023 Ford Bronco Raptor is $69,995 MSRP.
thats all i can go off of for now.

 

[MSparks909]

On paper. They are the smallest 37” tires on the market real world. They routinely measure 35.5-36 tops under vehicles. Most other 37s run 36-36.5” under vehicles. They aren’t true size 37s. Sorry to burst anyone’s bubble.

 

[FirstOnRaceDay]

Not that MANY people care but
Ford Bronco at 70mph is 1940rpm
Wrangler on 35s is 2090rpm

 

[FirstOnRaceDay]

On paper. They are the smallest 37” tires on the market real world. They routinely measure 35.5-36 tops under vehicles. Most other 37s run 36-36.5” under vehicles. They aren’t true size 37s. Sorry to burst anyone’s bubble.

Yup.
30s = 29.6”
31s = 30.8”
32s = 31.6”
33s = 32.5”
34s =33.5”
35s = 34.4”
37s = 36.5”
39s = 38.5”
40s = 39.8”
42s = 41.8”
(+/- 0.2”)
on average most brands

 

[HeliPilot]

i was going purely on MSRP.
2022 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon 392 with Xtreme Recon, Head liner, front camera, and doors off mirrors is officially $82,000 MSRP

2023 Ford Bronco Raptor is $69,995 MSRP.
thats all i can go off of for now.

I have a dealer selling that exact 392 for $7,000 under MSRP.
And someone earlier today has already been contacted by there dealer about converting their reservation to the Braptor. They were told to expect a $60K ADM.

 

[FirstOnRaceDay]

I have a dealer selling that exact 392 for $7,000 under MSRP.
And someone earlier today has already been contacted by there dealer about converting their reservation to the Braptor. They were told to expect a $60K ADM.

Link me because according to true car there is 1 392XR for sale in the whole usa under msrp

and you can go back and look at orders around here.
yes there is SCUM dealers charging ADM. but most arnt. Call around.

 

[HeliPilot]

Link me because according to true car there is 1 392XR for sale in the whole usa under msrp

and you can go back and look at orders around here.
yes there is SCUM dealers charging ADM. but most arnt. Call around.

Go to the Ram TRX forum, there is a link there to Koon's in Va. You contact them through that link, and they will order your 392 for $7,000 of MSRP. You cannot direct call the dealership. It has to go through that link. They have their emails posted. They are a Power Broker and have great deals on all hellcat, TRX and 392's. I contacted them, submitted my build, they sent me the paperwork to sign, and all that was left was to put down the deposit.

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