ANY turbo product should be looking at a better intercooler and charge piping. Nothing robs HP like hot temps and pulled timing.
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No.. its because people who are versed In forced induction are usually well aware of the virtues of bigger & better aftermarket intercoolers. Especially when the product is from a company like Cobb.Is that so? And why would you say something ignorant like that? Is it because I don't believe every unsubstantiated claim I come across.
With turbo or supercharge applications a cooler charge is more beneficial for the engine. That is why upgraded intercoolers, and heat exchangers are an increase in power because you can stay in boost longer without being heat soaked.
Cobb has been in the industry for turbo applications (mostly JDM) for a long time. So it does not have to be a stretch to understand what their intercooler can do for a Bronco. Most of the aftermarket intercoolers are a significant improvement to the stock intercooler.
In this case, size does matter. A larger size equates to more rows, more fins, and more capacity for cooling.
A well kept secret, (not so much) is that Ford, purposely leaves room on the table for upgrades and the aftermarket to fill in the blanks. Mustangs have been notorious for this since the 60's This is the reason we have the Shelby GT350.Right because all the engineers at Ford don't know what their doing. You can buy an intercooler that is twice as big, but never need the capabilities. So go ahead keep buying stuff you don't need, the aftermarket loves you.
Perhaps, but what is worse when people who have knowledge freely gives it, and people without knowledge decides to remain ignorant."A well kept secret, (not so much) is that Ford, purposely leaves room on the table for upgrades and the aftermarket to fill in the blanks."
Man, people love a good conspiracy theory.
Eh. We should probably stop feeding the troll.Perhaps, but what is worse when people who have knowledge freely gives it, and people without knowledge decides to remain ignorant.
Perhaps it would be better to try to listen to another point, especially when you lack knowledge on the subject instead of ridiculing it.
Got mine directly from Cobb for $600 a year ago.What is the HP gain on a $900 intercooler?
Depends on the trails doesn't it? Low speed crawling = near zero airflow across a heat exchanger. No airflow means heat soak no matter what the tubing size and number of rows. I've done hundreds of temp measurements on various ICs on other vehicles I've owned. A few minutes at or near idle conditions will soak any IC. A larger thermal mass takes longer to soak but it also takes longer to evacuate heat. A larger heat exchanger is advantageous only when a statistically significant amount of air flows across it. As others and you have said, it's part of a solution and should be farther down your build list. Definitely not your first or even second mod. That's my opinion. A fairly well informed one as I used to QC heat exchangers many years ago. For Valeo. With that said a Cobb unit would definitely be my go to choice. I've used their ICs and other turbo related components as well as their AccessPoints. Very good stuff.COBB has done in house testing on this unit. We have not yet but will be soon.
With that said the gain may not be peak it maybe under the curve because the stock unit is causing a loss in power with higher charge air temps.
Secondly an intercooler should be looked at the supporting mod to achieve more power than it providing a boost just for installing it. OEM intercooler on a hot day will cause more loss in power on the trails than a unit of the cobbs that keeps the temps in check. When increase the boost it will be able to accommodate that increase to allow the extra power to be had and maintained.