I am thinking of doing matte black but hearing you say hand wash only… I don’t want to do that for 7 years. Also I was quoted 4,300-5k does that sound right? This place has a 3 year warranty.
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Easy.If I could get something similar to this that's all I'd care about lol
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Order a small sample for a couple dollars here….
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Way way back after i ordered i spoke with my wrap guy i told him i wanted something like this .
He does great work and told me around 1700.00 and any color could be done but darker was better . Never thought it would be this long a wait ,i hope the price is still the same 1700 seems like alot but not thrilled with any of the colors but carbonized grey good luck with your project
He does great work and told me around 1700.00 and any color could be done but darker was better . Never thought it would be this long a wait ,i hope the price is still the same 1700 seems like alot but not thrilled with any of the colors but carbonized grey good luck with your project
Avery Matte Black is hands down the best looking matte black on the market. What’s great about matte black is the water beads right off it. You’ll never have water spots. And if you wax it, it won’t lose its matte finish.
3 year warranty isn’t a warranty. That doesn’t make any sense because they’re lying. The vinyl manufacturer says 3 year “durability” not “warranty”. The shop can not produce anything directly written by a manufacturer that has the word warranty. They do this because it’s a grey area. They’re saying it’ll stay matte black for 3 years. That’s it. And even then it’s only for the vertical surfaces. So your hood or any part of the surface past 10° vertical isn’t covered. So your door or fender is covered, but where it starts to turn to go horizontal, past that 10° isn’t covered. So if you wrap turns brown from sun burn because you didn’t take care of it with-in that 3 years, the manufacturer will NOT cover it. If something is seriously wrong with the vinyl, it’ll show fairly quick and yes they’ll cover it. (But won’t cover any labor) And usually if there’s a bad batch of vinyl out in the market, the manufacturer will already know and will have pulled off the market. In the almost 20 years I’ve been installing, I’ve never seen. manufacturer replace a wrap because it failed with-in 3 years. They might replace just enough vinyl to repair the area that would be bad. But that’s it. So if you’re wrap starts burning in 1.5 years. They aren’t going to do anything. Sorry to burat your bubble.
Now. If you’re wrap is failing. ie: lifting and bubbles in the recess area. That is 100% an installer problem. The manufacturer won’t do anything. So is the shop is saying they’ll cover their install for 3 years? If so, that’s great. That said, any lifting or bubbles will show up almost immediately (with-in weeks) after it’s installed. Take it back. They should fix it. Any good shop will.
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A wrap doesn’t have any sort of manufacturer warranty. What it’s saying is they guarantee the vinyl will still look good with-in 3 years. But only the vertical surfaces. If something catastrophic happens to the actual vinyl, like streaks show up from the production process they will cover that. But will not cover any labor. So be prepared to pay the labor again. I’m sure a reputable shop will work with you on that. But the standard issue of a wrap being ignored and turning burn is not covered by anyone. So don’t think that you’re driving around with something covered under a 3 year warranty and if it starts to lift and then brown you get a new wrap. That just doesn’t happen.
Pricing is about right actually. But for that price they quoted you should be getting the door jams done with it. Remember a roll of vinyl to do your car is only $560. Think $1,000 to install (what I’d charge to install/no jams). The rest is all mark up. Want to piss them off and save money? Buy the vinyl and take it to them LOL. Marking up the vinyl is where the money is.
Hope that helps answer questions. I’ll post again in a second with a link to a manufacturer so you can read it directly from them. But the shop is lying to you. It’s a selling point they’re using. The average life span people leave a wrap on their car is 3 years. They’re hoping your long gone and never come back. And with how many shady shops there are, I doubt they’ll be there in 3 years. Never use a wrap shop that is a sign shop first (Fastsigns, Signarama, etc). Use a wrap only shop. A franchise shop might wrap a 1 car a month. A good wrap only shop will have 3-4 cars in their on any given day. You can also find a certified installer on both the 3M and Avery website. They’ll say the same things I am.
Just an idea. Buy a black Bronco. Then have it completely covered in matte PPF. Now you get full paint protection. And it’s a matte finish. Win win. Though it’ll probably cost ya $8-$10k to get done.
$1,700-$2,000 is about right for a 2 door. No roof. No door jams. Plan on an extra $250 per door jam (approx).Way way back after i ordered i spoke with my wrap guy i told him i wanted something like this .
He does great work and told me around 1700.00 and any color could be done but darker was better . Never thought it would be this long a wait ,i hope the price is still the same 1700 seems like alot but not thrilled with any of the colors but carbonized grey good luck with your project
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Its a good option but with some caveats. They can provide some protection against chips and stuff like that, but not against anything major. A full wrap is going to cost you several thousand dollars and you don't want some fly by night guy doing it, you want someone good. Expect that the wrap will last you a few years before you need to take it off or replace it. Lifetime will depend on the weather where you live - e.g. if its the southwest and its really hot and sunny, you may not get the longest life as the films can dry and crack.
While wraps do provide paint protection, a detailer can restore your paint every few years if you are a perfectionist, and actually in my experience the cost between the two options is kind of a toss up. A lot of people therefore do partial wraps of places most likely to attract stone chips, lowering the cost of the wrap. Some manufacturers and their dealer networks are doing clear wraps on new vehicles (Kia does this on some models).
In addition to changing colors, you can also simulate a matte finish with a translucent neutral wrap, which is a cool effect. Sky's the limit really if you want to get creative.
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This is my plan. How will this hold up to tree branches scratching it… will it scratch easily and look like hell after my first tight trail?
Nope. It’s self healing. So scratches will go away with heat, ie sitting outside in the sun. PPF is a lot thicker then vinyl. So the durability is far superior. The stuff is awesome. I believe Xpel is the brand that has the matte finish. And from what I’ve heard, Xplel is the best stuff out there. I don’t install PPF directly so not super familiar with it but know enough. (Vinyl is my thing) I will say. FYI You can ceramic coat your PPF. So now water, mud, etc will slide right off. Making clean up a breeze and it’ll always be looking new.
Like vinyl, there’s limits though. Some super deep deep scratch could damage the PPF beyond basic healing. But your basic “Arizona pin striping” from off-roading is where PPF is the best. It can be installed on top of a wrap as well. And just a few years ago, to get matte black PPF. You’d have to wrap your car in matte black and then put clear PPF on top. Now with PPF available in a matte finish this extra step is eliminated, saving a ton of money. I plan on doing regular clear PPF over my wrap in the door jam area. That way the jams are protected when getting in and out. I personally won’t PPF my entire Bronco over the wrap because I don’t love a single color enough. Knowing me I’ll change my wrap in a year. And spending the money on a full coverage of PPF doesn’t make financial sense to me. Yes, I’d have to pay for it. I do have friends that install it, so definitely wouldn’t be paying full retail. But still, over $1,000-$1,500 just in material to cover a car is too much for the very short term I’d have it on. If I scratch my wrap from off-roading, I’ll just remove it and rewrap it in a different color. Hope that makes sense.
I am thinking about this for my Bronco. It is iconic silver. Is that too light? I am considering this classic Bronco color:
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You are like my new favorite person on here.
So much good advice, real advice. Humble, respectful approach.
Glad you are on the forum, and wish you had been here longer!!
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So I've just tumbled down the rabbit hole on rvinyl.com and have found so many colors that my brain can't handle the excitement. Most of the colors I am gravitating to are lighter like the ghost pearl or have hues of blue and teal like amethyst shift. My order is currently for Velocity Blue. If I even want to consider these I should switch to black? Even if I decide to go with a wrap with blue in it? I don't plan on wrapping it right away so I still want to drive my Bronco in a color I like until I'm ready and I can't stand black.
Thanks for all your input! Very informative for us wrapping novices!
https://www.rvinyl.com/3M-Wrap-Film-Series-1080-Satin-Flip-Ghost-Pearl-SP280.html
https://www.rvinyl.com/ORACAL-970RA-Matte-Amethyst-316M-Premium-Wrapping-Cast-Film.html
I’m curious how much the material is to wrap a Bronco? I have a buddy who does wrapping and offered to wrap mine and only charge for materials since it would be good exposure for his business.
We were thinking about having our Bronco wrapped in a bold, bright orange. The estimate we received for our 4-door was $8K 
When we were thinking this, we debated changing our Velocity Blue order to Black. Right now, we're thinking to keep the Velocity Blue and just have PPF applied to the front end and rocker panels.
I can do a lot of things with $8K.
When we were thinking this, we debated changing our Velocity Blue order to Black. Right now, we're thinking to keep the Velocity Blue and just have PPF applied to the front end and rocker panels.
I can do a lot of things with $8K.
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that ghost pearl is to die for.
I'm in a similar position about driving my bronco for a while before wrapping it.... but I don't hate black I just like the contrast between the black roof and white body. I think I'm going to make a few calls and see what the cost of wrapping might be - it'll take so long to get my bronco I could probably save up the extra money with spare change lol.
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