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I my experiences, LSD's do help but revert to a one legger when you need them the most. The helical design you described are better than the clutch type that Ford used to put in their trucks/SUV's. Even on the beach I had an F-250 with a rear LSD that let me down trying to crest a dune, might as well had an open dif. Give me a locker every time, best of both worlds.Wow, that's a lot of helpful responses for 8:00am. Thank y'all. Crap I guess I'll be talking with the wife soon. Probably shouldn't have already told her that the off-road package was overkill for someone like me lol. It feels n nice not having to worry about all of the changes I was considering though!
I don't want to remove a locker. Maybe I didn't word that great. I just would like a LSD over a locker in general as the LSD automatically engages and disengages, and isn't just for slow speeds. I'll take it to the beach and some lighter trails but I'll likely never go rock crawling which from what I understand is where lockers shine. I do understand that they help with sand however so not hating on them just seem a bit much.
Hey Austin. I'm not too familiar with wheeling in sand, but I've had several cars with LSDs; one mechanical, the other 2 were electric. an LSD is more for track or performance driving more so than an off road focused vehicle. Even the desert running Bronco; the WildTrak, doesn't come with an LSD, I assume based on what's needed on loose ground vs tarmac.The diff work is for like I said LSDs and regearing as the base has 3.73s with 30" wheels and I plan on going 33-33.5" which will probably throw off gearing enough to be annoying. I know the Big Bend can be had with 3.73's and it has a 32" wheel but if I'm putting LSDs in I may as well regear. That's my line of thought at least.
Yes, it'll be a family mover for occasional vacations to national parks and trips to the beach and light trails in the Houston area.
Factory LSD? That would have been clutch-type, totally different from helical, and usually worn out and ineffective.I my experiences, LSD's do help but revert to a one legger when you need them the most. The helical design you described are better than the clutch type that Ford used to put in their trucks/SUV's. Even on the beach I had an F-250 with a rear LSD that let me down trying to crest a dune, might as well had an open dif.
And since he's going to DD it, he's not really using it as an offroad-focused vehicle most of the time. LSD would be beneficial every day, where the locker would offer a 3% advantage over the LSD for a total of like 5 days a year. Seems like a no-brainer to me.an LSD is more for track or performance driving more so than an off road focused vehicle.
The Raptor comes with a helical LSD up front, and I'm willing to bet the Warthog will, too.Even the desert running Bronco; the WildTrak, doesn't come with an LSD, I assume based on what's needed on loose ground vs tarmac.
Right, the Raptor does, so there's high speed, then there's High Speed, as the Raptor is a step below desert race truck, just as an M4 isn't a race car, but more of a club track car.And since he's going to DD it, he's not really using it as an offroad-focused vehicle most of the time.
The Raptor comes with a helical LSD up front, and I'm willing to bet the Warthog will, too.
On my F-250 yes it was clutch type, and at less than 20,000 miles, not wore out.Factory LSD? That would have been clutch-type, totally different from helical, and usually worn out and ineffective.
A locker is beneficial offroad ONLY. For a regular DD, helical LSD is beneficial every single day, and especially when leaving from a stop, turning, or in rain or other slick conditions. You wouldn't use a locker in any of those scenarios, but when the turbo spools up the Bronco won't hesitate to one-wheel-peel without something distributing power to both rear wheels.
Yes, that's why it's so useless.You are correct a locker is beneficial off-road only but the 2021 Bronco is a selectable locker that acts like an open dif when not in use.
Don't forget there is traction control on all 4 corners that will help, too. It appears when Ford started putting speed sensors at all 4 corners on their trucks they stopped doing limited slip rears, presumably because traction control is just as good. I have no personal experience to say if that's true but the Bronco appears to have enough logic to handle almost anything without lockers.Factory LSD? That would have been clutch-type, totally different from helical, and usually worn out and ineffective.
A locker is beneficial offroad ONLY. For a regular DD, helical LSD is beneficial every single day, and especially when leaving from a stop, turning, or in rain or other slick conditions. You wouldn't use a locker in any of those scenarios, but when the turbo spools up the Bronco won't hesitate to one-wheel-peel without something distributing power to both rear wheels.