New article with a spin on the hardtop I hadn't heard

[Russ1Bronco]

This just reminds me of when Toyota joined NASCAR. All the bubbas were so pissed that a Jap car had infiltrated this great American sport... then it was pointed out that between the Ford, Chevy and Toyota only one of them was made in America. Can you guess which one?

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[mpeugeot]

People state a lot of things as fact that are opinions.

You mean like this???

There's only a few hundred produced and delivered Broncos with MIC, not 3000, according to premierdrum.

Does that change the computations at all?

Ok, he was right, it wasn't 3,000, it was 4,000.

"Ford recalled more than 4,000 Broncos already delivered to customers to replace the roofs at no charge to customers, according to the Detroit Free Press. "

I hate being wrong, but there you have it, I underestimated the number delivered.

 

[kje22kje]

Well if this is the best the aliens can do I can allay my fears about any impending invasion.

 

[navi]

You mean like this???


Ok, he was right, it wasn't 3,000, it was 4,000.

"Ford recalled more than 4,000 Broncos already delivered to customers to replace the roofs at no charge to customers, according to the Detroit Free Press. "

I hate being wrong, but there you have it, I underestimated the number delivered.

You don't hate being wrong, apparently you really really like it.
I didn't come up with the few hundred MICs delivered estimate, one of our insider members did.

I mean just yesterday you were whining about Ford halting all hardtop production in a conversation you had with someone. At least you had a disclaimer that "it might not be true" before whining about it some more.

And today there are scheduled build emails with MIC tops being posted multiple times here.

 

[mpeugeot]

You don't hate being wrong, apparently you really really like it.
I didn't come up with the few hundred MICs delivered estimate, one of our insider members did.

I mean just yesterday you were whining about Ford halting all hardtop production in a conversation you had with someone. At least you had a disclaimer that "it might not be true" before whining about it some more.

And today there are scheduled build emails with MIC tops being posted multiple times here.

And I said that I would be both happy and amazed if they actually built them with production ready tops.

 

[WuNgUn]

https://www.wardsauto.com/vehicles/ford-bronco-roof-issue-recovering-covid

This is the first I heard about bending = leaking being main recall focus. Interesting..

A tooling supplier issue...? How does this effect quality and QC??

 

[JaxGtc]

Bronco Bastards.com has to be the journalism equivalent of "my dealer said".

 

[phocion]

Bronco Bastards.com has to be the journalism equivalent of "my dealer said".

Yeah the Wuhan details from the Ford exec are interesting (and new, I think?), but the bending/leaking rumor from some random website don't even qualify as "a spin" in my book. Think I would trust the average 6G "dealer said" thread more than that.

I'm not saying all the recall issues were in fact "cosmetic", but no one from Ford/Webasto has credibly leaked alternative reasons for the recall so far. Nor has Ford changed its story.

 

[mbagne]

BuY aMeRiCan!

Toyota makes the most cars in America, while using the most parts sources from the US as well.

This is supposed to be my first "American" made car. My Subaru was made in Indiana, but my Ford will be mostly Mexican and Chinese...awesome.

Made possible by Ford's "Chief Diversity Officer".

 

[RoLyMa27]

It will come in smelling like a swamp donkey inside!!!

Whatintha Sam hell is a swamp donkey???

 

[Bronc-O]

I dont see any problem .The top is made in china. And as always breaks 5 minutes after you get it..

The tooling was made in China. The tops are made in Michigan USA.

 

[Ts3794]

https://www.wardsauto.com/vehicles/ford-bronco-roof-issue-recovering-covid

This is the first I heard about bending = leaking being main recall focus. Interesting..

leaking? Like my Jeep?

I just opened the drain hole…. Keeps carpet dry…. When it rains several days a year

 

[Bronc-O]

Quoting this because it is important. The roof bending claim in the article is attributed to a website called Bronco Bastards - not Ford employees.

That only proves we're not the only one's making claims that may or may not be true.

 

[HPNQ420]

The initial tops that were extensively tested and OK'd were made at a rapid prototype shop in Germany by Webasto and didn't exhibit any of these issues. For whatever reason that I'm not aware of, the actual tooling used in the factory could not reliably produce the panels according to spec. Which resulted in the exposed edges. The internal honeycomb structure is compressed cellulose because it's very thermally stable dimensionally to counteract the thermal instability of the plastic. However it's highly dimensionally unstable when exposed to moisture so the edges MUST be completely sealed.

I am strongly of the opinion that the Germans who made the prototypes saw the flaws in the drawings and made them right anyways, and management ignored their worries about the tops as designed.

 

[Bronc-O]

LEAK'S!?!? So now my Bronco sitting at dirt mountain may be leaking? It will come in smelling like a swamp donkey inside!!!

They'll include a tree air freshener with the scent of your choice.

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