No manual with mid-package

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Ford. Why not answer these questions?update BNP.?





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I reserved a Black Diamond. Today I find out that there is no manual available with the mid-package. This seems the perfect vehicle to replace my ‘05 Xterra Off Road (215k Miles with only a new clutch, front drive shaft and rear differential rebuild) which has gotten me anywhere I’ve needed to go. The only thing missing was heated seats. If this isn’nt unf**ced my next vehicle will be a used Xterra. Upgrading to the BD would be plus 7k for features I don’t need. Fix it or goodbye Ford. Signed, prior owner of a ‘67 Bronco and ‘96 Explorer, both with a clutch.
B&P is TERRIBLE, especially on the Black Diamond. Sasquatch is over $1K higher on BD than other trims and it was supposed to be CHEAPER according to the FORD email they sent. It also kicks you out of Sasquatch if you want a brush-guard (WTF!), and when, for the love of God will they give you the Sasquatch with the stick option, much less what you say about somehow the manual can't have the mid package, though it does with the badlands which is Squatch minus the 35s. I honestly think Ford is trying to throw the game.
 

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I certainly hope they do! The only concern I see is since the mid package isn't an option, they wont be able to see the final manual configurations. Unless they start watching for the number of times someone has to change selections due to a limitation.
Valid point. Perhaps they only see the finished build and not a zillion unsuccessful attempts to select what we actually want.
 

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Which of the two of these is most likely?

Scenario 1) A 25 year old in Silicon Valley who had never even heard of the Bronco before they were assigned to the project to build the Build & Price site for the Bronco misunderstood that a Mid Package on a manual would just be missing one of the features of the package as opposed to being completely unavailable.

Scenario 2) Ford really hates manual transmissions and wants to rid the world of them. They also really don't want manual drivers to have any luxuries in them so they prevent them from adding packages. They also kick puppies.

I think we know our answer.

Occam's razor.

Chris
Uh, #2 for $500, Alex.
 

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This is unacceptable. Did they roll out a fucked up B&P just because there was so much complaint about it? Are the complainers happy now?
You don’t appear to be happy about it.
 

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My dealer (Galpin Ford) told me the mid package will be available with Big Bend manual transmisson, just without remote start. Hope they are correct.
Now get me the same good news with a Black Diamond!
 

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I'm a value shopper.
I've come to love the idea of saving 10k on a BaseManSquatch, the truck will have everything you , I or anyone needs in a basic offroader or daily driver. I'd love a Badlands, but right now, I'm not OK with the 48K build out.
The only thing I'd REALLY like is heated seats...but not for 10k.
Probably, the BaseManSquatch is the truck Ford DOES NOT want to sell you. I'll bet there's very little profit there.
I’ve installed heated seats in 2 cars now. You can find kits on Amazon (and elsewhere online) for about $150.
 
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over a week since BNP released. Nothing from ford. Dealer or build site. Great job on getting people to bail
 
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You can get a Big Bend manual with Mid Package. Saves you money vs Black Diamond. You can get the Signature lights too!
I’ve been over it on B&P a million times. Only Badlands is available with manual and any package above standard. For now, hopefully.
 

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This is B&P about 30 seconds ago after adding mid package and then going back to remove auto trans and replace with Manual.
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