TBH my Bronco will likely be replaced by an EV SUV with >10” of ground clearance, >300mi EPA range, <$80k MSRP, >=2 motors in the next few years as they become available. I don’t care if Ford doesn’t offer such a product, because others will. So probably an R1S.
All new ICE vehicles have become just as complex electronically as EVs, and farrrrr more complex mechanically. More failure points during service life, more failure points during manufacturing. Just look at the 2.7 saga. I’m speaking from experience unlike many in this thread. I’ve owned 2 Teslas (MY2018 & MY2020), a 4Runner (MY2019), a Tacoma (MY2016), etc. all within the last 7 years.
For me, EV ownership experience blows ICE out of the water, and don’t even get me started on the legacy dealership model experience.
No one here knows how long the demise of the ICE will take, so debating it in this thread is stupid, just like the 500 threads that came before this one. But many major manufacturers are already killing their ICE development teams, and many more are only just beginning to make massive investments in the EV space. It’s coming.
And, everyone should be excited about EVs or some amount of electrification. Remember natural aspiration? Port injection? If fully ICE new consumer vehicles are still widely available in 10 years I shudder to think what their powertrains will look like. 0.125-liter , quintuple-turbocharged, ultra-direct injected Frankenstein spaghetti monsters that last 15k miles before exploding and sound like amplified mosquitos? No one here seems to be admitting it, but ICE has been over the hill on its way toward death for years. The ICE heyday is long gone, and any ICE you get today is a massive compromise.
All new ICE vehicles have become just as complex electronically as EVs, and farrrrr more complex mechanically. More failure points during service life, more failure points during manufacturing. Just look at the 2.7 saga. I’m speaking from experience unlike many in this thread. I’ve owned 2 Teslas (MY2018 & MY2020), a 4Runner (MY2019), a Tacoma (MY2016), etc. all within the last 7 years.
For me, EV ownership experience blows ICE out of the water, and don’t even get me started on the legacy dealership model experience.
No one here knows how long the demise of the ICE will take, so debating it in this thread is stupid, just like the 500 threads that came before this one. But many major manufacturers are already killing their ICE development teams, and many more are only just beginning to make massive investments in the EV space. It’s coming.
And, everyone should be excited about EVs or some amount of electrification. Remember natural aspiration? Port injection? If fully ICE new consumer vehicles are still widely available in 10 years I shudder to think what their powertrains will look like. 0.125-liter , quintuple-turbocharged, ultra-direct injected Frankenstein spaghetti monsters that last 15k miles before exploding and sound like amplified mosquitos? No one here seems to be admitting it, but ICE has been over the hill on its way toward death for years. The ICE heyday is long gone, and any ICE you get today is a massive compromise.
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