Bronco allocations released to dealers

[Gamecock]

I am not a dealer.

Via an email from FORD announcing this change:


Source: https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/thre...-priority-fordpass-points-loyalty-gift.10042/

You can't be bumped by a dealer putting someone ahead of you. Why?

If the dealerships try, they will be penalized by FORD

https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/thre...ont-sell-to-original-reservation-holder.5909/

You will see that reservation holders will get order numbers to give the dealer, and that is the num


I've got to find this, but I think it is Ford who will be turning reservation numbers into an order numbers, not the dealer. I am 99% sure Ford is the gatekeeper in this scenario.

I believe the process will be that Ford will send the dealership a package of order numbers that line up with reservations. I read this somewhere but can't find it. It wasn't related to allocations but it was a response to people worried about people skipping the line.

Allocations are just the first step, as I am sure there needs to be inventory in the system for order numbers to be generated.

For all we know the low allocation number is just Ford doing a data import in stages, and by the 19th the dealership allocations will have increased to the total number of reservations.

Okay, you presented a lot of things as fact that are not, and would have been new information. The process as you describe it is not the way it is going to go according to all of the dealer provided information on here.

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[Rubisquatch]

So for those that know (or about to know) if they made the cut at their dealer, I guess the next big hurdle are those with 2.7L lux sasquatch (like me). Is that just going to be luck of the draw? And how big of a delay could that be? A month? 6 months? I know nobody has the answers, but it seems to be the last missing link here. Maybe they give you the option to chose 2 out of those three to spread the wealth and not crush everyone.

My guess is they will try and build in order of time stamp with the parts they have on hand. Meaning they will build all the 2.7 and Sas they have right off the bat. They will not try to ‘evenly distribute‘ 2.7 and Sas or make people choose something options. The reason is $$$. Ford will want to sell the highest price rigs they can and sell those first As they can show more revenue sooner. Selling Broncos with both Sas and 2.7 makes them more $ than selling Broncos with only 2.7 or only Sas. When the run out of 2.7 or 315 tires (cause that’s the only real commodity issue on Sas) they will keep building the next rigs they can with the parts they have on hand, maybe that’s Big Bends with 2.3 and soft tops. They will then start building more 2.7 and Sas once those parts get restocked.

 

[Judge Rufus]

Wonder if that ratio is consistent across the board?

Spoke with my dealer today. He said Ford told them that all dealers will be receiving initially an allocation of approx. 30% of the reservations they currently hold. This was to keep it fair across dealerships.

I can see how that might not be fair to some.

 

[Gloff]

It's all speculation at this point.

Just my simple math. The production capacity for 2021 MY is approximately 70,000.

There's roughly 200,000 reservations let's say 70% (I think that's high) convert to orders. That means half of reservations will be a 2022 MY Bronco.

How many of our reservation holders want a black painted top? How many want a mansquatch? How many wanted a painted white top? 2.7L engine? Etc.

There's so many moving parts, I'd hate to tell someone they're out when we could get them one. I'd also hate to over-promise without knowing I can get it done. At this point it's pure speculation.

Listen to Zach, this is exactly it. There are too many moving parts with the commodity constraints to predict which of our reservations will get built in '21. As intended, the earlier the reservation, the more likely it gets built. There will be exceptions closer to the cutoffs at each dealer, but as Zach said, we have no way of knowing which of the borderline reservations get '21 and which get '22 until the production plan comes out in May.

 

[Judge Rufus]

Ford can't build all 190k reservations because of a variety of factors.

The #1 factor is that not all of those reservations will be converted into orders. You're starting with too large a number.

 

[Lowcountry Bronco]

I may get my MachE before my Bronco.

I may get social security!

I have a 7/14 and a 10/17 spot, still debating which to keep ... White top or one of the first on the block and just get soft top.

 

[dejones64]

It's nice to kick back and enjoy the show with some popcorn. ???

What? Are you reservation number 1 or something, so laid back and relaxed?

Just kidding, yea one can go crazy reading every post out here for the last 2 days, especially the ones regarding allocation.

My Granger reservation is on 7/23. So I may get pushed way out. Ok I guess, more time to save. On the other hand I would be very excited to to get it in 2021, honestly can't wait, but what can you do.

 

[bdub2you]

For what damages and under what law?

Most states have passed some version of a Consumer Fraud and Deceptive Business Practices Act. There is also breach of contract and fraudulent misrepresentation. Damages would be the tricky part. I'm assuming that early deliveries will be able to flip them for well over sticker, and at this rate that will likely hold throughout 2021. This isn't generally my area of practice, but I bet a class action specialist might be interested in a case involving a class of likely tens of thousands of people who Ford is screwing over, for maybe $5,000 in damages per class member.

 

[Zach@Granger]

Listen to Zach, this is exactly it. There are too many moving parts with the commodity constraints to predict which of our reservations will get built in '21. As intended, the earlier the reservation, the more likely it gets built. There will be exceptions closer to the cutoffs at each dealer, but as Zach said, we have no way of knowing which of the borderline reservations get '21 and which get '22 until the production plan comes out in May.

I agree. Also I think there is a misunderstanding too that a 22 MY is going to be a big delay. This last year we had 20 MY F-150s dropped off on a transport with 2019 F-150s. In fact, we hadn't received our final 2019s yet.

That factory is going to be full steam ahead as fast as they can get the parts.

 

[Nickp]

I challenge the dealerships who have made special deals for Bronco buyers, such as Sewell/Granger/Stephen’s/ to release their allocation and reservation numbers. It seems like most dealerships have been pretty open with it when people inquire. To not see it coming from 3 of the largest Bronco reservation holders who have specifically targeted out-of-state enthusiasts and forum goers is a bit concerning IMO.

 

[jaruss01]

@Rubisquatch hope you're right. That would be a big windfall for guys with Day 1 reservations to not only make the dealer allocation cut-off, but also get their loaded sasquatches first before inventory dries up. Better add more cameras in the driveway, this beast is going to rare for awhile.

 

[mr. snuffleupagus]

@Zach@Granger @Granger Ford is the plan to try and get through all your reservations holders for order conversion by March 19th regardless of whether or not they may eventually be MY22's? Previous responses from Albert suggested yes because allocation and delivery was likely to be fluid based on so many factors (reservation time stamp, trim, late availability options, etc.). Asked another way should October reservation holders expect to be ordering now when banks open and then re-ordering once we all have a better idea of timing?

 

[bdub2you]

If they're only allocating day 1 and day 2 reservations for 2021 builds I would make alternative arrangements for an August vacation (maybe glamping at Jenny Lake Lodge in the Tetons). You build date could easily be in the later half of the year.

 

[Gloff]

I agree. Also I think there is a misunderstanding too that a 22 MY is going to be a big delay. This last year we had 20 MY F-150s dropped off on a transport with 2019 F-150s. In fact, we hadn't received our final 2019s yet.

That factory is going to be full steam ahead as fast as they can get the parts.

Yes, 22 production startup will be easier since there won't be wholesale changes to the production line.

 

[JaxGtc]

Yes, actually it can. Allocation ESTIMATES were based on EVERY reservation (9/18 and older) going through. Once all orders are in there will be another allocation calculation that will be the actual allocation. This can change. If all dealers have the same % of cancellations, nothing will change. However, If one dealer has 50% and another has 0% cancellations, the 0% dealer will likely gain allocations from the one that lost lots of reservations.

You are correct in that reservations converted to orders are part of the formula, but my post responded to someone stating that a cancelled reservation equated to a lost allocation.

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