2.3 vs 2.7

[rapidredbronco2021]

Just get the manual it’s a dying art.

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[MaverickMan]

That's a highly flexible answer.
351 Cleveland, 351 Windsor, or 351 Modified?

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ETA: AND WHY!

351s all largely fit that description. with a few exceptions like early 351w(car motors, but in the era when cars had tow hitches and frames) and the clevelands and boss's(still in an era of cars being heavier duty than rangers and some midsized trucks)

 

[Gamecock]

I dont think so, a skilled clutch foot does the same thing on a stick.

No. It doesn’t. Look up effective crawl ratio and automatic transmission, and look into it. Why do you think everyone runs a much lower crawl ratio on an auto than they would on a stick?

 

[BordFronco]

I test drove the Ranger and the F-150 today and boy the 2.7L felt great. 2.3L wasn't bad but the bigger engine was a lot more fun. That said, my decision will be solely based on if I want the manual or the auto. You should test out both engines and see what you like

 

[Lowcountry Bronco]

With respect to OP, it almost seems like a lost art these days with members unwilling to query a search on forums.

Exhaustive, relevant threads that talk about this topic populating on just page 1 include:
2.3 ecoboost impressions
2.3 v. 2.7
test driving 2.3 vs. 2.7
tuning a 2.3

Bumping old threads won’t charge ya a thing, honey.

I guess searching is a lost art just like driving a manual is. ?‍

 

[Broncomputer]

I would probably get a 2.7 in manual, but since that doesn't exist 2.3 it is. Both sound...meh...with an exhaust, so there's that too.

With a tune on the 2.3 you'd have similar power to the 2.7, so I'm not too worried.

Also the Bronco with the 2.3 has about the same hp/weight as my current car, and more tq, so I'm sure it will be a bit quicker than what I'm driving now.

 

[Lowcountry Bronco]

I'll give the same answer as the last time this came up, 2.3 and manual. Why? Because this will probably be the last shot to get a manual in a Bronco, everyone going auto to get the 6 when both offer plenty for the trails and the road. If for whatever reason I can't keep up in traffic or merge on the interstate or make it up a hill then the V6/auto combo will still be there and I'll have a unicorn either to trade or sell to another manual fan.

 

[Rocket]

Always get the biggest motor, you wont regret it, the fuel issue is insignificant
More power more torque is always better, the 2.7 is a very good motor

 

[GaryB2220]

What ever the best engine I can get with the manual transmission. If Ford wants more money from me in 2021, they will have to allow us to get the 2.7 with the manual

 

[MaverickMan]

No. It doesn’t. Look up effective crawl ratio and automatic transmission, and look into it. Why do you think everyone runs a much lower crawl ratio on an auto than they would on a stick?

A torque converter is no different in result than a clutch. It spins, creates pressure it turns into friction, and eventually locks or holds at a slippable pressure just below lockup. The advantage of a manual in crawling is that it effortlessly maintains a low speed at a fixed ilde or whatever your left foot desires. Unlike an auto which is often slipping. Giving an inconsistent feeling. A manual will idle over obstacles that a automatic will simply stop and slip at.

 

[GotGOAT]

According to survey pricing 2.7=$3500 + $1600 for auto trans. Thats $5100 for 40hp. I think I could do alot w/$5100 and I can get 40hp w/a pretty mild tune. 2.7 has lost the war of dollars IMO. Im also completely terrified of Ford v6 engines (not just ford but most mfgrs) Maybe 2.7 is the exception that proves the rule...but im still scared away by past experience. I'll stay w/2.3...manual is a bonus!

According to the Survey Pricing the $3500 is for the 2.7 TT EB AND the 10 speed AT. ($1900 for 2.7 and $1600 for AT).
It is still a lot of money but, maybe the all in $3500 changes some of your thoughts about it.
I like the 2.7 for the extra Torque not the HP bump. The 2.7 is very responsive and a good match in the F-150 so I think it will work well in the Bronco.
Tough choices all around with solid engines, crawler gear manual vs 10 speed, the mysterious color pallet.

 

[Bmadda]

According to the Survey Pricing the $3500 is for the 2.7 TT EB AND the 10 speed AT. ($1900 for 2.7 and $1600 for AT).
It is still a lot of money but, maybe the all in $3500 changes some of your thoughts about it.
I like the 2.7 for the extra Torque not the HP bump. The 2.7 is very responsive and a good match in the F-150 so I think it will work well in the Bronco.
Tough choices all around with solid engines, crawler gear manual vs 10 speed, the mysterious color pallet.

I'm a bad example...if Ford PAID ME $3500 to take the V6 I'd still have to think about it. Don't trust V6....can't do it!

 

[Broncocito]

Also the Bronco with the 2.3 has about the same hp/weight as my current car, and more tq, so I'm sure it will be a bit quicker than what I'm driving now.

I doubt it. Your GTI is at least 1250lbs lighter than the Bronco. Ranger 0-60 time is 7 seconds depending on the driver.

 

[DrewBronc21]

I’m like 90% decided on 2.3 manual because I’ve always liked manual cars slow and fast. They are just more fun and the Bronco is supposed to be a fun 4x4. For those posting here who simply don’t drive manual, it’s a no brainer....2.7 all day. For those who just want use their right foot, 2.7 auto. No brainer.


I also modify my forced induction cars so that’s good for the 2.3 but even better on the 2.7. My worry with the 2.7 auto is boredom. The Bronco will be a mass produced very common 4x4 and driving auto may get old like I’m just driving an explorer with a removable top. The manual will make it a bit more special.

my wife’s uncle taught her to drive manual on an old CJ out in Colorado years ago and he said auto is just a car, manual makes it a “vehicle” . Save the manuals! Lol

 

[bf4445]

A torque converter is no different in result than a clutch. It spins, creates pressure it turns into friction, and eventually locks or holds at a slippable pressure just below lockup. The advantage of a manual in crawling is that it effortlessly maintains a low speed at a fixed ilde or whatever your left foot desires. Unlike an auto which is often slipping. Giving an inconsistent feeling. A manual will idle over obstacles that a automatic will simply stop and slip at.

you forgot to add they are both very similiar in design except the auto is wet computer controlled and the manual is driver controled. However, the new select shift autos give the driver the ability to select any gear manually the only thing missing is a clutch pedal and the computer can handle that much more eficiently than you can. Some autos even use a series of dry clutches like on the focus. Their really isnt much difference ecept the auto has modern controls but the manual has old fashioned human control. I own a jeep rene TH with a 2.4 and it is a pig untill you use the select shift to hold it in the proper gear so the engine can rev up for power and they its a beast.

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