Anyone else checking out the new Jeep vehicles?

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Grand Wagoneer was never going to compete with the Bronco, that's not their intended market. They want a share of the people buying loaded Navigators and Escalades and such, and the significantly higher profit margin they bring.
Well name it something different.

the Grand Mallcrawler works better.

Tired of seeing SUVs that have potential get ruined with IRS.





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Well name it something different.

the Grand Mallcrawler works better.

Tired of seeing SUVs that have potential get ruined with IRS.
Errr, isn't "Wagoneer" enough of a tipoff . . . Grand Station Wagon? They are in it for the money and making money for their shareholders, just like every other business. Look at Porsche - to a purist those Cayenne's and Panamera's are anathema to what used to be their core business. Cayenne's now account for ~50% of total sales and Panamera's another 25% - not because Porsche salespeople are running around with guns holding up potential customers and forcing them to buy. People want what they want and Jeep (like Porsche) would be stupid to choose to stay out of such a profitable market segment for some stupid "purity test". Nobody's taking their Aviators and Escalades crawling . . . or their Bentaygas, Cullinans and Urus's (Uri?) for that matter. There's a market for people that want ultra comfort in a large "SUV" and are willing to drop 6 figures for it. People that want a relatively comfy SUV that still has some off-road cred from Jeep can get a Grand Cherokee (at least for now, who knows what next-gen will be like).
 

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Just announced:

- 4xE electric plug in hybrids for Renegade & Compass
- 4xE Wrangler with quiet engine, good torque, and 50mpge!
- Grand Wagoneer ($60k-100k, I wanna see that version of the Bronco)

I'm still sold on Bronco, but I'm thinking about waiting for that Hybrid now! Tax Rebates & gas prices are set to go up soon!

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This is probably Jeep or dealer owner trolling the Potential Bronco buyers trying to hang onto business.
 

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Grand Wagoneer was never going to compete with the Bronco, that's not their intended market. They want a share of the people buying loaded Navigators and Escalades and such, and the significantly higher profit margin they bring.
You are correct. Then they should have come up with a new name. Kept the Wagoneer name for something more rugged. It is obvious they were going after the Navigator market. It's not a bad SUV, it just isn't a Wagoneer.

The funny part is, Ford proved that people want rugged off roaders that can be daily drivers. Plus, people drive Wranglers as Daily drivers, in huge numbers. So keep the off road ruggedness and add some luxury to it.
 

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You are correct. Then they should have come up with a new name. Kept the Wagoneer name for something more rugged. It is obvious they were going after the Navigator market. It's not a bad SUV, it just isn't a Wagoneer.

The funny part is, Ford proved that people want rugged off roaders that can be daily drivers. Plus, people drive Wranglers as Daily drivers, in huge numbers. So keep the off road ruggedness and add some luxury to it.
The wagoneer was always more of a luxury vehicle despite the few pictures posted in this thread and my avatar which are stripped down versions. Most of the ones I saw had power everything, leather seats and were mostly owned by the wealthy ( at least that was my perception in 70's-80's in Denver).

I wish I had kept mine, it was a 4 speed manual with power nothing...
 

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Just announced:

- 4xE electric plug in hybrids for Renegade & Compass
- 4xE Wrangler with quiet engine, good torque, and 50mpge!
- Grand Wagoneer ($60k-100k, I wanna see that version of the Bronco)

I'm still sold on Bronco, but I'm thinking about waiting for that Hybrid now! Tax Rebates & gas prices are set to go up soon!

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Not a Jeep fan.
 

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Just announced:

- 4xE electric plug in hybrids for Renegade & Compass
- 4xE Wrangler with quiet engine, good torque, and 50mpge!
- Grand Wagoneer ($60k-100k, I wanna see that version of the Bronco)

I'm still sold on Bronco, but I'm thinking about waiting for that Hybrid now! Tax Rebates & gas prices are set to go up soon!

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Nice thing about working in the oil field and driving big 4x4s we love high oil and gas prices.
 

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