Are we sure that shifting back to 2H in Baja is all good on pavement? I still get the off-road only warning and it's creeping me out a bit...
I'll say this: I sold my '69 Z/28 with a beefed up V8 a couple of years ago and I remained one of those 'there's no replacement for displacement' people. I actually haven't even driven a 2.7L Bronco and I don't care. The 2.3 and 7-spd is pure awesome! Is it a race car? No. Do I EVER worry about being run up on by someone? No chance. The tech built into these new EcoBoost engines is astounding. This thing makes 300hp and 330ft.lbs. What is that...40% more than 1990s average V8s? Does 2.7L have more low end grunt? Sure. But the added awesomeness of the 7-spd makes me NOT CARE AT ALL about the 2.7L Even the Raptor 3.0L EB makes me yawn without a manual. Period.
enjoy!
That's how I ended up switching to my big bend mansquatch from a WT. The two largest driving factors in my build were 7MT, Sandstone or Roast interior.
Lol yeah probably get that because it enables distractions like the cameras.Are we sure that shifting back to 2H in Baja is all good on pavement? I still get the off-road only warning and it's creeping me out a bit...
Nothing solid. Just thruthiness, conjecture, and listening to people who have experienced modern slushboxes learning.
I sorta felt like Carb Grey was a 'safe' pick for me initially. I started with Cactus but I feel like that color will end up being very trendy and look dated really quickly. Carb Grey feels like it will be timeless...and it'll look badass with the matte black hockey stripes that are coming soon!!
Oh okay, I couldn't tell which way people were leaning about it.
Great review but I have to point out the interior quality materials etc in the lower models and upper models is the same. I think it's great but I have never been one to be impressed by soft touch polystyrene and silly stitching.Hey folks -
So, I'll start by saying that, like many of you, I've been playing this game of guessing, hoping, regretting,, lying to myself, and at times, wanting to just bail out. I didn't bail out and I'm glad I didn't.
Some back story:
I was a hour-one reservation and had a 2021 WT reserved initially. After learning that manual trans SAS was not available until '22, I went on hold and then ordered once the '22 banks opened. I am at a small/mid-sized dealer in a smaller city in Orange County, CA - and I feel like this helped my timing as I am constantly hear that folks going with the mega dealers are trapped in a black box of allocations and waiting without any communications. My experience at Fairway Ford in Placentia was not this. My rez was handed over to their fleet manager, Trina Mayer and she crushed it! ZERO nonsense, ZERO horseshit fees, ZERO nitrogen tires. ZERO. I made sure to get an email that said they will not charge ADM on reservations and her word was sound. I paid sticker. Trina even got me the 220,000 FordPass Points without my chasing her around on it.
My deal was apparently so rare in that it lacked the now normal dealer abuse fees that the gal handling my auto loan at my credit union couldn't believe how clean the deal was...she hadn't seen ANY new car paper that wasn't burdened with some level of fuckery in months. This was awesome to hear and is a testament to Trina and Fairway Ford.
Now...with respect to what you want to know about....the Blazer....oooops, I mean the Bronco. (Don't get me started on that sad Blazer...I am a life-long Chevy guy and after I saw what they did to the new Blazer I can no longer take that company seriously. They took an iconic, cornerstone line and turned it into a forgettable, sad appliance vehicle like any of the other 100 fake off-road crossovers littering the landscape. Just pathetic.)
My Bronco is:
2022 Badlands
Carbon Grey
Sasquatch
7-spd/2.3
LUX
Leather
Soft top
For me, manual trans was 100% mandatory. If it was not offered, I would not be typing this right now. I will admit that I was concerned about the 2.3L, however. I am coming from a Yukon Denali and it's got a big V8 and tons of torque. But, my personal math goes like this: the enjoyment differential of a manual over an auto is FAR GREATER than the enjoyment differential of the 2.7 over the 2.3. And it's not close, honestly. Do I wish the 7spd was available with the 2.7?....yes, of course. But here we are.
For anyone who's driven the 2.3 auto and makes the claim that it feels weak and leaves you wanting more, I can not disagree. I drove a stripped down Big Bend 2.3 auto several months ago and I was not left with a great feeling....it was fine...but not great. I am here to tell you that the 7spd CHANGES THIS VEHICLE ENTIRELY. It's that good. Let me get into some detail.
Exterior:
The Sasquatch Bronco is LARGE. This vehicle is much larger, taller and impressive than I was expecting. I had not seen a SAS in person - closest thing was a Big Bend with larger tires - not the same thing. The SAS Bronco is big, tall, imposing. In short, it's awesome. Climbing in and out takes some work - especially for kids - but they'll get over it. My kids are in love with this thing, too.
Soft Top:
I have not dropped the top yet - waiting on some warmth. The noise level is not great...if I can be honest. I've read elsewhere that folks have likened it to the sound if a window is partially open and I think this is accurate. How will this go on a long trip remains to be seen - BUT - I do realize what this vehicle is and this noise level concern is something that I will easily trade off for the awesomeness of the convertible option.
2.3L + 7-speed:
This combo is where it's at! The power definitely comes on higher that we may want but it's just fine - because you are in charge with the manual! Once the turbo spools, you really feel it! And this is normal mode - I have not ForScanned in Sport yet - but that's coming. The engine pulls nicely and is super smooth throughout. Mileage seems good thus far - no real data yet but I'll know more in the next couple of weeks. The shifter feels perfect. It's the right combo of throw length and 'clickety-click' to feel super reliable and dependable. No miss-shifts yet. I am investigating whether we can swap in an aftermarket shift knob - but it isn't straightforward as the knob uses a set screw - not standard knob threading - so we'll see. But either way, it's a joy to drive and rowing your gears is THE SINGLE BEST THING ABOUT THIS VEHICLE - PERIOD!! I expect things to be even better with Sport mode - which is difficult to imagine!
Interior:
The interior quality/look and feel of the Big Bend I drove months earlier seems really cheap and lower-end - or at least that's what I remember. The interior quality in my Bronco is an entirely different experience. Maybe it's the new leather smell - I don't know - but the material quality, the seat support, the ergo of all controls, etc - it's all really great. I will say that the interior storage is limited and going to need some getting used to but overall the interior experience is far better than what I was expecting. Their is a fair degree of lower-quality plastics but even those are not terrible. The good part is that all of the high-traffic areas are nice: steering wheel is great, seat material leather is awesome, buttons are all soft-touch, knobs all have nice, solid heft and clicking detents (I'm a stickler for switches and knobs feeling like tools, not toys). Rear seat room is not super awesome - but coming from the full-size Denali, I must come around here. Further, rear cargo is tighter of course - I've already spent the day struggling with how I will be getting all of my kids' baseball team gear loaded and functional. Another bugaboo that I think we cause consternation: loading gear into the rear with the tailgate open: You can not (easily) prop up the rear of the soft top with the gate open since the prop rod needs to rest on the tailgate. So you are forced to slide everything UNDER the soft top and it is very limiting and I can already see myself getting pissed doing this. Also, raising the soft top back looks to cause serious deflection and warping of the side vinyl windows and I suspect doing it many times will cause the wrinkly windows to get even worse...not good.
Off-road:
None yet - but this review is forthcoming.
I'm certain I'm forgetting many things - but this is the core info. In short, this thing is amazing and has rekindled my joy of driving. That's not hyperbole. I and SEEKING reasons to go out and drive it. After years of not driving a true enthusiast vehicle, I feel back at home in a vehicle that wants to be driven by a real driver - not just someone looking for basic transportation. Yes, this Bronco is not cheap - I do not look forward to the large payment for several years - but I have ZERO qualms or buyers remorse - quite the opposite actually.
So, there it is. Definitely hit me with any questions. I'll talk to whomever about it or crawl under it for pics or whatever you want.
I'll close with this nugget from earlier today leaving my daughter's basketball game:
A family was walking out as we rolled by in the Bronco.
The wife said, "Hey there's one of those new Broncos! That looks different that Suzy's, though."
The husband says while looking at me: "That's one of the real Broncos. Suzy has one of those weeny Bronco Sports."
I spoke no words to the dad as I tipped my ballcap. Enough said.
Other Notes:
- As expected, I have a rear sway bar
- Pics below are pretty much trash but you get the idea.
- I have matte black hockey stripes to add this week - Thanks to BSCHURR on this forum
- Satin Chrome Bronco script - from BroncoDepot - to install as well
Thanks for pointing that out. Perhaps I was swayed by the look/feel/smell of the leather in mine that pushed me into feeling that the entire interior was a notch up on the Big Bend with basic seats that I drove.
That first one showing distressed leather, that was what I wanted. Also not in the cards. I also felt this undeniable need for 360 camera. Ford must not believe you can use a camera and your left foot at the same time.
I will second your thoughts on the MT 2.3. Very impressed with how much power it actually has, and with the ease of shifting as you row through the gears. Very happy that I ordered the MT...Hey folks -
So, I'll start by saying that, like many of you, I've been playing this game of guessing, hoping, regretting,, lying to myself, and at times, wanting to just bail out. I didn't bail out and I'm glad I didn't.
Some back story:
I was a hour-one reservation and had a 2021 WT reserved initially. After learning that manual trans SAS was not available until '22, I went on hold and then ordered once the '22 banks opened. I am at a small/mid-sized dealer in a smaller city in Orange County, CA - and I feel like this helped my timing as I am constantly hear that folks going with the mega dealers are trapped in a black box of allocations and waiting without any communications. My experience at Fairway Ford in Placentia was not this. My rez was handed over to their fleet manager, Trina Mayer and she crushed it! ZERO nonsense, ZERO horseshit fees, ZERO nitrogen tires. ZERO. I made sure to get an email that said they will not charge ADM on reservations and her word was sound. I paid sticker. Trina even got me the 220,000 FordPass Points without my chasing her around on it.
My deal was apparently so rare in that it lacked the now normal dealer abuse fees that the gal handling my auto loan at my credit union couldn't believe how clean the deal was...she hadn't seen ANY new car paper that wasn't burdened with some level of fuckery in months. This was awesome to hear and is a testament to Trina and Fairway Ford.
Now...with respect to what you want to know about....the Blazer....oooops, I mean the Bronco. (Don't get me started on that sad Blazer...I am a life-long Chevy guy and after I saw what they did to the new Blazer I can no longer take that company seriously. They took an iconic, cornerstone line and turned it into a forgettable, sad appliance vehicle like any of the other 100 fake off-road crossovers littering the landscape. Just pathetic.)
My Bronco is:
2022 Badlands
Carbon Grey
Sasquatch
7-spd/2.3
LUX
Leather
Soft top
For me, manual trans was 100% mandatory. If it was not offered, I would not be typing this right now. I will admit that I was concerned about the 2.3L, however. I am coming from a Yukon Denali and it's got a big V8 and tons of torque. But, my personal math goes like this: the enjoyment differential of a manual over an auto is FAR GREATER than the enjoyment differential of the 2.7 over the 2.3. And it's not close, honestly. Do I wish the 7spd was available with the 2.7?....yes, of course. But here we are.
For anyone who's driven the 2.3 auto and makes the claim that it feels weak and leaves you wanting more, I can not disagree. I drove a stripped down Big Bend 2.3 auto several months ago and I was not left with a great feeling....it was fine...but not great. I am here to tell you that the 7spd CHANGES THIS VEHICLE ENTIRELY. It's that good. Let me get into some detail.
Exterior:
The Sasquatch Bronco is LARGE. This vehicle is much larger, taller and impressive than I was expecting. I had not seen a SAS in person - closest thing was a Big Bend with larger tires - not the same thing. The SAS Bronco is big, tall, imposing. In short, it's awesome. Climbing in and out takes some work - especially for kids - but they'll get over it. My kids are in love with this thing, too.
Soft Top:
I have not dropped the top yet - waiting on some warmth. The noise level is not great...if I can be honest. I've read elsewhere that folks have likened it to the sound if a window is partially open and I think this is accurate. How will this go on a long trip remains to be seen - BUT - I do realize what this vehicle is and this noise level concern is something that I will easily trade off for the awesomeness of the convertible option.
2.3L + 7-speed:
This combo is where it's at! The power definitely comes on higher that we may want but it's just fine - because you are in charge with the manual! Once the turbo spools, you really feel it! And this is normal mode - I have not ForScanned in Sport yet - but that's coming. The engine pulls nicely and is super smooth throughout. Mileage seems good thus far - no real data yet but I'll know more in the next couple of weeks. The shifter feels perfect. It's the right combo of throw length and 'clickety-click' to feel super reliable and dependable. No miss-shifts yet. I am investigating whether we can swap in an aftermarket shift knob - but it isn't straightforward as the knob uses a set screw - not standard knob threading - so we'll see. But either way, it's a joy to drive and rowing your gears is THE SINGLE BEST THING ABOUT THIS VEHICLE - PERIOD!! I expect things to be even better with Sport mode - which is difficult to imagine!
Interior:
The interior quality/look and feel of the Big Bend I drove months earlier seems really cheap and lower-end - or at least that's what I remember. The interior quality in my Bronco is an entirely different experience. Maybe it's the new leather smell - I don't know - but the material quality, the seat support, the ergo of all controls, etc - it's all really great. I will say that the interior storage is limited and going to need some getting used to but overall the interior experience is far better than what I was expecting. Their is a fair degree of lower-quality plastics but even those are not terrible. The good part is that all of the high-traffic areas are nice: steering wheel is great, seat material leather is awesome, buttons are all soft-touch, knobs all have nice, solid heft and clicking detents (I'm a stickler for switches and knobs feeling like tools, not toys). Rear seat room is not super awesome - but coming from the full-size Denali, I must come around here. Further, rear cargo is tighter of course - I've already spent the day struggling with how I will be getting all of my kids' baseball team gear loaded and functional. Another bugaboo that I think we cause consternation: loading gear into the rear with the tailgate open: You can not (easily) prop up the rear of the soft top with the gate open since the prop rod needs to rest on the tailgate. So you are forced to slide everything UNDER the soft top and it is very limiting and I can already see myself getting pissed doing this. Also, raising the soft top back looks to cause serious deflection and warping of the side vinyl windows and I suspect doing it many times will cause the wrinkly windows to get even worse...not good.
Off-road:
None yet - but this review is forthcoming.
I'm certain I'm forgetting many things - but this is the core info. In short, this thing is amazing and has rekindled my joy of driving. That's not hyperbole. I and SEEKING reasons to go out and drive it. After years of not driving a true enthusiast vehicle, I feel back at home in a vehicle that wants to be driven by a real driver - not just someone looking for basic transportation. Yes, this Bronco is not cheap - I do not look forward to the large payment for several years - but I have ZERO qualms or buyers remorse - quite the opposite actually.
So, there it is. Definitely hit me with any questions. I'll talk to whomever about it or crawl under it for pics or whatever you want.
I'll close with this nugget from earlier today leaving my daughter's basketball game:
A family was walking out as we rolled by in the Bronco.
The wife said, "Hey there's one of those new Broncos! That looks different that Suzy's, though."
The husband says while looking at me: "That's one of the real Broncos. Suzy has one of those weeny Bronco Sports."
I spoke no words to the dad as I tipped my ballcap. Enough said.
Other Notes:
- As expected, I have a rear sway bar
- Pics below are pretty much trash but you get the idea.
- I have matte black hockey stripes to add this week - Thanks to BSCHURR on this forum
- Satin Chrome Bronco script - from BroncoDepot - to install as well
