Dog safety and comfort

[BEM-S4]

He doesn’t like having the top down but puts up with it around town / low speed at the beach. Otherwise prefers one of the other cars.

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[GreatDaneMom]

Probably not what you are asking but I'll be building my pal a ramp that I can extend out the back onto the ground for him to climb up. He'll be almost 11 when I take delivery and he's been with me on every single outdoor adventure I've had in the last decade. We've climbed icy mountains, canoed through states, and been on backpacking adventures. He would be a mess if he ever found me packing my gear and he didn't get to go. I'm happy to oblige. Last year at 8pm every night he would go stand by the back of my SUV (when dispersed camping) until I lift him in. He gets out every hour to check on me and every hour I have to hoist him back in. Hopefully he can get the hang of a ramp.

I'll be getting the Heninger Twist Step. I've had one on all my SUVs and it works great... fits into the tow hitch and twists under the car when not in use. Much wider than a ramp, more stable for my 180 lb Great Danes, and I can also stand on it to reach the roof racks!
https://twistep.com

 

[ScrunchFace]

Not too long ago, Elon Musk was on the JRE and was speaking about how advanced modern day air bags are.

He said you basically don’t have to wear a seatbelt they’re so good.

He spoke about Tesla’s airbags, but also modern airbags in general. I’m not sure how advanced Ford’s airbags are or how good they’ll be in the Bronco, but maybe someone else more knowledgeable than me on the subject can add to that.

 

[Hoofnmouth]

Yeah, but I bet the Jeep rides is what your dog lived for. I didn’t know any better either.

I have never tried the products yet. But I plan on either getting a barrier, and maybe a harness similar to what’s in the picture, or both. I know my boy is safe in the crate, but I want him to enjoy the ride with me. I just drive extra cautious.

That’s my 7 month old Pyrenees/Golden tearing up Tahoe snow!

Theres nothing like a dogs happy face

 

[BEM-S4]

I'll be getting the Heninger Twist Step. I've had one on all my SUVs and it works great... fits into the tow hitch and twists under the car when not in use. Much wider than a ramp, more stable for my 180 lb Great Danes, and I can also stand on it to reach the roof racks!
https://twistep.com

That’s really cool, bookmarked that in case I ever get a bigger dog. Current little guy would take one look at that and be like “neat, now pick me up”

 

[VelocityBrew]

If you're going to harness your dog I suggest looking into CPS approved harnesses.

https://www.centerforpetsafety.org/test-results/harnesses/cps-approved-harnesses/

 

[mds5917]

I'll be getting the Heninger Twist Step. I've had one on all my SUVs and it works great... fits into the tow hitch and twists under the car when not in use. Much wider than a ramp, more stable for my 180 lb Great Danes, and I can also stand on it to reach the roof racks!
https://twistep.com

Wait, I'm still getting over the "s" at the end of 180lb Great Danes...meaning you have more than one...

I think you have a GVWR problem if you take them to get food. On the other hand, you don't need a winch as they can probably pull the Bronco out of anything!

Gotta post a pic of them - they must be awesome!

 

[L8apex]

If you're going to harness your dog I suggest looking into CPS approved harnesses.

https://www.centerforpetsafety.org/test-results/harnesses/cps-approved-harnesses/

My wife is an engineer for child safety seats and would laugh at the performance requirements to earn their seal.

Basically as long as the webbing / stitching doesn't have a gross failure and your dog doesn't travel 3 FEET during a sled test it will get a seal. There is no federal standard for pet safety, so I suppose something is better than nothing, but note there is no injury criteria for the safety of your pet, no G measurement or force measurements.

More importantly, just like kids, is if the product is being used as intended. So buy a harness that your dog is comfortable in and is installed correctly.

EDIT: Also note there is no mention of the test protocol (how many Gs), just that it's at a NHTSA certified facility!

 

[mds5917]

Not too long ago, Elon Musk was on the JRE and was speaking about how advanced modern day air bags are.

He said you basically don’t have to wear a seatbelt they’re so good.

He spoke about Tesla’s airbags, but also modern airbags in general. I’m not sure how advanced Ford’s airbags are or how good they’ll be in the Bronco, but maybe someone else more knowledgeable than me on the subject can add to that.

Not sure I'd go that route...and have a hard time believing Tiger would have survived depending only on airbags. At least until we get the foam filling safety system from Demolition Man

 

[VelocityBrew]

My wife is an engineer for child safety seats and would laugh at the performance requirements to earn their seal.

Basically as long as the webbing / stitching doesn't have a gross failure and your dog doesn't travel 3 FEET during a sled test it will get a seal. There is no federal standard for pet safety, so I suppose something is better than nothing, but note there is no injury criteria for the safety of your pet, no G measurement or force measurements.

More importantly, just like kids, is if the product is being used as intended. So buy a harness that your dog is comfortable in and is installed correctly.

I mean have you watched other companies get tested? Some do EXTREMELY poor. Just something to keep in mind I guess

 

[L8apex]

I mean have you watched other companies get tested? Some do EXTREMELY poor. Just something to keep in mind I guess

My point was what does poor mean? Like here - yes the dog doesn't become a projectile. I'd say that's good. But he's so rigidly strapped in, that had it been a real dog his organs are going to slam around and his neck will slam forward. And like any good critic - I'm not proposing a solution or say I know best. But I do know F*Delta_T = M*Delta_V. The mass and change in speed are going to be constant for a crash test. So the only way to reduce the F is to increase Delta_T.

 

[VelocityBrew]

My point was what does poor mean? Like here - yes the dog doesn't become a projectile. I'd say that's good. But he's so rigidly strapped in, that had it been a real dog his organs are going to slam around and his neck will slam forward. And like any good critic - I'm not proposing a solution or say I know best. But I do now F*Delta_T = M*Delta_V. The mass and change in speed are going to be constant for a crash test. So the only way to reduce the F is to increase Delta_T.

Poor is broken chest straps, broken clips or mounting components, and ejections. I figured that was clear but I figured wrong.

 

[L8apex]

Poor is broken chest straps, broken clips or mounting components, and ejections. I figured that was clear but I figured wrong.

I figured that's what you meant, but my point is if your measuring stick is ONLY gross failures, then you're not really measuring anything.

It should be gross failures AND some sort of injury criteria. If I tied up my dog with a noose it would past these tests.

 

[VelocityBrew]

If I tied up my dog with a noose it would past these tests.

Wow that's some brilliant logic ...

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