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Raptor designed to haul-ass in the dirt, and you can manually paddle shift it.
You will never "need" the tachometer for that. It will automatically upshift if you get it near the red line.
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You will never "need" the tachometer for that. It will automatically upshift if you get it near the red line.
Same logic could be used with the rev limiter on a manual...
 

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Same logic could be used with the rev limiter on a manual...
Do you think an intuitive tachometer is just as important in an automatic (with or without paddles) as it is in a manual?
 

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Do you think an intuitive tachometer is just as important in an automatic (with or without paddles) as it is in a manual?
Look...I understand your point about a more traditional looking tach. I have the same thing in my Explorer ST. In most modes, the tach is a small sliding bar on the side of the display, and when I go to 'Sport' mode the dash changes to almost what you see in this Raptor video.

But you are complaining about the responsiveness of a bar tach in a 5,000 lb+ vehicle with a 4 cylinder engine. If you are driving it anywhere near redline and worrying about getting those shifts juuuuussssttttt before that point, you are driving the wrong vehicle.

Just my opinion of course.
 

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5000 lb vehicle or not, it needs a REAL tach. I drive up steeps hills daily and due to SAS short gearing, I need to keep the engine in powerband in order to move as I need to move. The bar tach is a joke and the fact that it would have cost Ford ZERO dollars to have made some level of improvement is unforgiveable. This is an enthusiast vehicle and the "oooopsie, we forgot to care about it" tach is laughable at best and embarrassing at worst. It remains perhaps the biggest black eye on the vehicle IMO - aside from stickers instead of metal emblems, anyway.
 

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Do you think an intuitive tachometer is just as important in an automatic (with or without paddles) as it is in a manual?
Yes, paddles are best used for downshifting and holding a gear. For full throttle upshifts no driver is faster than the computers so simply let it shift itself. For downshifting say around a corner and you can leave it in auto, but once you have completed the corner it will return to auto upshifting.
 

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Look...I understand your point about a more traditional looking tach. I have the same thing in my Explorer ST. In most modes, the tach is a small sliding bar on the side of the display, and when I go to 'Sport' mode the dash changes to almost what you see in this Raptor video.

But you are complaining about the responsiveness of a bar tach in a 5,000 lb+ vehicle with a 4 cylinder engine. If you are driving it anywhere near redline and worrying about getting those shifts juuuuussssttttt before that point, you are driving the wrong vehicle.

Just my opinion of course.
This makes much more sense to me... I'm used to driving my GTI and old R32 lol.

So, I am absolutely looking at it that way. But still thrilled to have a Bronco that can go anywhere instead of a little fragile sports car.
 

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Hopeful for an OTA update for that dash!
 

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5000 lb vehicle or not, it needs a REAL tach. I drive up steeps hills daily and due to SAS short gearing, I need to keep the engine in powerband in order to move as I need to move. The bar tach is a joke and the fact that it would have cost Ford ZERO dollars to have made some level of improvement is unforgiveable. This is an enthusiast vehicle and the "oooopsie, we forgot to care about it" tach is laughable at best and embarrassing at worst. It remains perhaps the biggest black eye on the vehicle IMO - aside from stickers instead of metal emblems, anyway.
if you need an analog tach to make sure youre are in powerband on hills, please stay off the trails. powerband is something you feel, and on the trail your eyes should be elsewhere, its not complicated. people bitch about everything these days
 

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5000 lb vehicle or not, it needs a REAL tach. I drive up steeps hills daily and due to SAS short gearing, I need to keep the engine in powerband in order to move as I need to move. The bar tach is a joke and the fact that it would have cost Ford ZERO dollars to have made some level of improvement is unforgiveable. This is an enthusiast vehicle and the "oooopsie, we forgot to care about it" tach is laughable at best and embarrassing at worst. It remains perhaps the biggest black eye on the vehicle IMO - aside from stickers instead of metal emblems, anyway.
So you cannot tell by feel when you need to be in a lower gear?
 

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It's very similar to the F-150 Raptor display except you don't gear a big gear readout like that- it puts the rpm in X.X format, e.g., 2500 rpm is 2.5, in the center instead.
 

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Is that a little person driving?
 

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They actually fixed the Dash! I really hope that filters down to the other Broncos.
 

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Not using cruise, repurposed Airbus fender flares are keeping him at 75.
 

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Just a fun little video of a minute behind wheel of a BRaptor.

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He could of least floored it or hit the ditch 🤷‍♂️

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