Got my confirmation but have questions about x plan

[DarthMcVader]

Talked my dealer into honoring x plan but he said they can't list it on the buyers agreement until they have a vin and invoice. I got him to write on the buyers agreement that they would honor x plan but the whole situation has me feeling iffy. For those of you who used x plan, was your experience similar?

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[MOBRONCO]

You won’t get an answer because the Bronco isn’t currently eligible for x plan. They are just selling it to you cheaper than MSRP without the kickback from Ford.

 

[DarthMcVader]

You won’t get an answer because the Bronco isn’t currently eligible for x plan. They are just selling it to you cheaper than MSRP without the kickback from Ford.

Yeah I'm just worried we are going to get to the table and them yank it.

 

[cobro92]

Yeah I'm just worried we are going to get to the table and them yank it.

Technically, they could do that to you. But what I would recommend is to just agree to the price first in writing. Have the sales manager draft up a bill of sale with the purchase price and sign it. This is not an uncommon request. Of course, a document like that isn't legally binding, but it at least should give you some peace of mind. Unless your dealer is a real ass I don't think they would do a bait and switch like that.

 

[jamtra]

My dealer said Ford does not recognize x-plan for the bronco but they will honor it.

 

[DarthMcVader]

Technically, they could do that to you. But what I would recommend is to just agree to the price first in writing. Have the sales manager draft up a bill of sale with the purchase price and sign it. This is not an uncommon request. Of course, a document like that isn't legally binding, but it at least should give you some peace of mind. Unless your dealer is a real ass I don't think they would do a bait and switch like that.

Well the problem is they do not know invoice or Vin so they can't quote what the x plan would be

 

[RagnarKon]

Well the problem is they do not know invoice or Vin so they can't quote what the x plan would be

If they go to look up X-Plan pricing on the Bronco the ordering system throws an error, even if you do have a VIN, because, as @MOBRONCO mentioned, X-plan is unavailable on the Bronco.

BUT... X-plan pricing follows a standard formula, so they don't need to look it up.

(Invoice * 99.6%) + (Destination/Delivery) + (Administration Fee)

Last I checked the administration fees included a $275 program fee and a $100 dealer doc fee.

Do they actually know that X-Plan is unavailable on the Bronco?? A dealer can choose to honor X-Plan pricing if they want, but as @MOBRONCO said, they won't get the kickback from Ford. The fact that they want to wait until they get a VIN number makes me think the dealership has no idea X-Plan is unavailable on the Bronco.

 

[PozMonstet]

My dealership quoted me A/Z plan, D plan and X plan prices

 

[DarthMcVader]

If they go to look up X-Plan pricing on the Bronco the ordering system throws an error, even if you do have a VIN, because, as @MOBRONCO mentioned, X-plan is unavailable on the Bronco.

BUT... X-plan pricing follows a standard formula, so they don't need to look it up.

(Invoice * 99.6%) + (Destination/Delivery) + (Administration Fee)

Last I checked the administration fees included a $275 program fee and a $100 dealer fee.

Do they actually know that X-Plan is unavailable on the Bronco?? A dealer can choose to honor X-Plan pricing if they want, but as @MOBRONCO said, they won't get the kickback from Ford. The fact that they want to wait until they get a VIN number makes me think the dealership has no idea X-Plan is unavailable on the Bronco.

They did mention it was unavailable. I told them other dealers are honoring and if they aren't I'll go elsewhere. So they came back saying they would do it

 

[RagnarKon]

They did mention it was unavailable. I told them other dealers are honoring and if they aren't I'll go elsewhere. So they came back saying they would do it

You need a buyer's order, purchase agreement, bill of sale, or some other written price agreement then that is signed by you and the dealer that lists the actual selling price with all of the dealership documentation fees, taxes, etc. Only way to protect yourself on pricing.

Since they aren't going to get any X-plan kickback from Ford, they is no reason to wait for a VIN number or an X-plan PIN for pricing. This is just pure price negotiations between you and the dealer. You might as well not even say the words "X-Plan" because it has nothing to do with X-Plan other than you are just trying to match the selling price.

 

[DarthMcVader]

You need a buyer's order, purchase agreement, bill of sale, or some other written price agreement then that is signed by you and the dealer that lists the actual selling price with all of the dealership documentation fees, taxes, etc. Only way to protect yourself on pricing.

Since they aren't going to get any X-plan kickback from Ford, they is no reason to wait for a VIN number or an X-plan PIN for pricing. This is just pure price negotiations between you and the dealer. You might as well not even say the words "X-Plan" because it has nothing to do with X-Plan other than you are just trying to match the selling price.

You can calculate it yourself if you want. Price guide with invoice pricing is available here. Destination and delivery is $1495. Admin fees are $375. Add it all up and calculate it out for your particular build. Then approach the dealer and negotiate on that price.

Do I do this off the invoice price and then add in packages after?

 

[93_SVT_3503]

I have a secondary dealer i've been talking to that is doing MSRP. I mentioned having an X-plan pin number, and the salesman said 'we honor x-plan, IF Ford allows it.' To which I replied, Ford isn't allowing it, but several dealers are using it to secure sales. He keeps avoiding the conversation about it after I mentioned that. That's their way of keeping you on the line without actually saying no at first, weary of losing a sale. They have way more allocations than my original dealer, which hopefully cuts my wait time in half after I put my order in.

 

[MOBRONCO]

My dealership quoted me A/Z plan, D plan and X plan prices

A/Z, along with D Plans are available. X Plan can be priced, but the dealer is holding the bag on the discount, not Ford.

https://www.ford.com/support/how-to...o-order-holder-frequently-asked-questions/#16

 

[RagnarKon]

Do I do this off the invoice price and then add in packages after?

Invoice price of the entire Bronco.

So for example... say you are ordering a Base Bronco with the Sasquatch package. Without X-Plan the cost would be $38,180.00 before taxes/doc fees.

invoice price on a Base Bronco is $29,643. Sasquatch package invoice pricing is $6,195.

So your formula would be this:
(($29643 + $6195) * 99.6%) + $1495 + $375 = $37,564.65

 

[DarthMcVader]

Invoice price of the entire Bronco.

So for example... say you are ordering a Base Bronco with the Sasquatch package. Without X-Plan the cost would be $38,180.00 before taxes/doc fees.

invoice price on a Base Bronco is $29,643. Sasquatch package invoice pricing is $6,195.

So your formula would be this:
(($29643 + $6195) * 99.6%) + $1495 + $375 = $37,564.65

Got it. Thanks!

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