Help: I purchased a factory stolen Bronco Raptor and had no idea

[Indarkness]

Thank you sir and that is correct and it was leaning towards that when you have a freakin title in your name free and clear. Almost was real. Almost..

This… this right here is driving me crazy!! Almost real?? You traded it in on a F150 raptor! From the title of the post to the user name it’s all nonsense! Had you continued to drive the Braptor it would have been real. It would have been real till who knows when. You had a title, you had the truck, what 1,2,3 years down the road do you think anyone would have gone after a truck that you have owned and drove for years with no issues?

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[AKBronc49]

This… this right here is driving me crazy!! Almost real?? You traded it in on a F150 raptor! From the title of the post to the user name it’s all nonsense! Had you continued to drive the Braptor it would have been real. It would have been real till who knows when. You had a title, you had the truck, what 1,2,3 years down the road do you think anyone would have gone after a truck that you have owned and drove for years with no issues?

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/toronto-...stolen-60-000-truck-from-dealership-1.6349832

 

[Ninjak]

Wrong. I just don't run with people who get scammed out of $75k and turn around try and get right quick before shit hits the fan.

I paid cash for my first bronco and sold it a few weeks later. However I bought mine at a dealership and everything was on the up and up....

Again, I did not state the scam or why it is, or is not a scam. I stated that I have seen people I know take cars back to the dealers well within a ten-day time period and for me, that does not seem like some big red flag.

From his story, he wanted a truck for what he does. Now why he would buy a BRapter to fit that need, who knows? I am not on here trying to be Pary Mason or a detective from Law and Order. The man put his story up, and whether it's true or a bunch of lies is no never mind to me.

Oh btw, we have dealerships too. They pay cash as well, and nobody is running around buying at the buy here-pay here lot. I know a gentleman who bought a Vett, kept it for a week and returned it for the new Z06 because he got his butt whoop in a race! Waste of money? YES! But again when you have it, you have it. No scamming stories attached.

 

[Grumpy]

Never do business with a man in clean air force ones. That is my number one rule.

Mine is stay away from anyone in dirty AF1s, so there goes that.

Mine is you never buy shit on Craigslist. Then you never have to worry about clean or dirty AF1's.

I mean really? Of all places, Craigslist to purchase a highly sought after hard to find, and under MSRP BRaptor and only accepts cash, crisp/clean Benjamin's to be precise.

 

[HBTFD]

When I worked at a ford plant the VIN plates were controlled under lock and key. Only a few individuals touched them. At some point in the 70s workers at the plant came up with a duplicate scam. A guy in the body shop would run 2 vehicles with the same VIN. Duplicate tickets would be on the vehicles and someone in predelivery would be waiting. When the 2nd vehicle came out of the building the 2nd guy would drive it out of the fence free and clear. That exact scam would not work with all the bar code scans but what happened to the OP would not be too hard. Only cash is a red flag. One way to verify is cross reference the other VINs on broncos. I’m not sure of all the locations, we used to have them on the engine, axle and underneath the instrument panel. I believe there are more stamped Vins in other places as well.

I looked on my bronco, the only 3 I could find easily were the doorjam, windshield and in the engine compartment.on the inner right fender

 

[chartzilla]

This… this right here is driving me crazy!! Almost real?? You traded it in on a F150 raptor! From the title of the post to the user name it’s all nonsense! Had you continued to drive the Braptor it would have been real. It would have been real till who knows when. You had a title, you had the truck, what 1,2,3 years down the road do you think anyone would have gone after a truck that you have owned and drove for years with no issues?

I think pretty quickly there would have been an issue because the scammer used the VIN number of another Braptor that hadn't been delivered yet. I'm not sure exactly what would happen when another buyer went to register their legitimate Braptor when that VIN was already registered.

 

[thatch11b]

Retired LEO. Back when I first started my career VIN plate swapping was a somewhat common thing. They would switch it out with that of a similar make, model, etc. I would check with the State or Feds Auto Theft Units. They will be better equipped to handle your questions and MAY have info or leads on similar thefts, local groups, individuals etc. Good luck

 

[HotdogThud]

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/toronto-...stolen-60-000-truck-from-dealership-1.6349832

From the article:
"Further investigation revealed Crocker’s truck was reported stolen in Durham Region, and that its VIN had been changed so it could be used as an unsuspecting trade-in at the dealership."

All evidence thus far still points to the OP being the one trying to foist a stolen good (Braptor) onto a dealer to try and get a legitimate good (F-150 Raptor)

Can we just whack this ridiculous thread already?

 

[Indarkness]

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/toronto-...stolen-60-000-truck-from-dealership-1.6349832

"The VIN was cloned. That’s when they take a VIN from a legal vehicle and use it to hide a stolen vehicle," Lematire said.

Mazda Canada said the dealership refunded the entire cost of the vehicle to Crocker, including past loan payments and provided him with a loaner vehicle.


Maybe OP should contact the Seller so he knows the Braptor was stolen and he can be a good Seattle condo owning citizen and return the $75,000 in unmarked $100 bills.

 

[MOBRONCO]

From the article:
"Further investigation revealed Crocker’s truck was reported stolen in Durham Region, and that its VIN had been changed so it could be used as an unsuspecting trade-in at the dealership."

All evidence thus far still points to the OP being the one trying to foist a stolen good (Braptor) onto a dealer to try and get a legitimate good (F-150 Raptor)

Can we just whack this ridiculous thread already?

There is NOTHING that indicates that at all, if so, OP would be in jail and sure as hell not posting here.

 

[lrtexasman]

I’m retired federal LE. Enter your information at https://www.ic3.gov/ that will go to the FBI crime center. You are a victim of fraud that involved wire transfers and ITSP. Not likely the FBI would work a 75k theft. However, I’d bet a dozen that this is a ring involving multiple vehicles and victims. If prosecuted and funds seized, you would be eligible for victim compensation. Also, you can look into claiming your losses on taxes as you were not compensated by insurance company or dealer. LE can find the guy and bank accounts rather quickly.

 

[MOBRONCO]

I’m retired federal LE. Enter your information at https://www.ic3.gov/ that will go to the FBI crime center. You are a victim of fraud that involved wire transfers and ITSP. Not likely the FBI would work a 75k theft. However, I’d bet a dozen that this is a ring involving multiple vehicles and victims. If prosecuted and funds seized, you would be eligible for victim compensation. Also, you can look into claiming your losses on taxes as you were not compensated by insurance company or dealer.

No wire transfer, OP handed the scammer 750 $100 bills from what he said.

 

[HotdogThud]

There is NOTHING that indicates that at all, if so, OP would be in jail and sure as hell not posting here.

You'd be surprised man, I've seen a dude get busted for taking instagram selfies with a motorcycle that *he stole* from a dealership, at the very same dealership it was stolen from, during a motorcycle show that was hosted by law enforcement.

And like I said earlier, what effin' good does it do to post about it here? So a bunch of internet sleuths can scour the internet and make things right? I'm sure @Ford Motor Company is just waiting to get his VIN via DM to help him out.

 

[ONCEHADABRAPTOR]

This… this right here is driving me crazy!! Almost real?? You traded it in on a F150 raptor! From the title of the post to the user name it’s all nonsense! Had you continued to drive the Braptor it would have been real. It would have been real till who knows when. You had a title, you had the truck, what 1,2,3 years down the road do you think anyone would have gone after a truck that you have owned and drove for years with no issues?

Guess we will know man but now I wish

 

[ONCEHADABRAPTOR]

There is NOTHING that indicates that at all, if so, OP would be in jail and sure as hell not posting here.

Ya I mean the police were there. The dealer agreed and everyone agreed I got cooked. The gm was even like ya I mean look at us we bought it.

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