Is Demand softening?

[Raptor911]

OK .. boss.

Does it matter what your neighbor ate for dinner? Does it decide what you will eat?

Relax man

OP had a question. It matters to him for whatever reason. Your "should" is what doesn't matter here.

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[ThisGuy611]

Exactly this. They can be found at MSRP if you cast a wide enough net. Admittedly anything badlands or above would be a tough score right now.

The ADM craziness is quickly evaporating for our Broncos and moving on to Raptors. If you’re shrewd you’ll get an abandoned order or slightly used Wildtrack no problem in the coming months.

I think the problem with this is finding a dealer who actually charges MSRP. When searching online they all show the original price until you go in person and it's marked up. If I could score a base CO 2 door at MSRP I'd be willing to fly halfway across the country to pick it up.

 

[mini4mw]

Stopped by this am to update for 23MY. Dealer had 5+ abandoned orders (Broncos) but they were all marked up 20k from MSRP. Sales said a few orders coming in and people don't want them for one reason or another. Rates going up, stock markets going down. The future is not looking great. I think we'll see plenty of cars laying around next year, but I could be wrong.

 

[Bremre]

What is interesting to me is that Bronco's are sitting on lots much more so than they did 6 months ago. I have been following a few that have been available for almost a month - granted I haven't called the dealer to see what the mark up is. I have no issues waiting until the craziness ends. I refuse to pay over MSRP and fine with waiting a year or 2 if that is what it takes.

It will be interesting to see what the conversion rate of reservations to orders are. The economy is much different than what it was a year ago. I wouldn't be surprised more than a few people decide not to change their 22 orders to 23.

 

[BroncoSarge]

I hope the ADMs and coming down. I’m not a fan.

 

[Ground_zero298]

Recession is coming. Most don’t have the funds or can’t get approved. When you ask more for a vehicle then the bank says it’s worth you have to come up with the extra scratch yourself.

 

[Gizmo]

Careful what u wish for, Old lady works in Real-estate here in PA and the housing market is changing daily. Just 4 weeks ago you list your house and you had offers over asking in 24 hours, now houses are actually siting and as sellers are starting to adjust asking price's

Same here in the state the Bronco is built, seller's are reducing the asking price many times. It will be an interesting year.

 

[JBlanco]

What is interesting to me is that Bronco's are sitting on lots much more so than they did 6 months ago. I have been following a few that have been available for almost a month - granted I haven't called the dealer to see what the mark up is. I have no issues waiting until the craziness ends. I refuse to pay over MSRP and fine with waiting a year or 2 if that is what it takes.

It will be interesting to see what the conversion rate of reservations to orders are. The economy is much different than what it was a year ago. I wouldn't be surprised more than a few people decide not to change their 22 orders to 23.

Smart man, voting with your wallet is one of the loudest ways to do so.

 

[TopRecon]

Demand is softening, but supply is still woefully inadequate.

 

[bhb]

Just wait until all the folks who bought the bronco as a 2nd or 3rd car decide to pull back and the trade ins come.

 

[scranch18121]

Nothing like that out west. I was at my dealer Saturday in the Portland, Oregon area. The only Bronco's on their lot are two mannequins for test drives. If they happen to get a Bronco for stock, they sell at $7k over MSRP. Bronco Raptors are $25k over. They had 6 allocations for Bronco Raptors and all 6 sold at $25k over.

Bozeman Ford has 6-7 Dealer Order units and according to the blend dates on the WS were just produced in the past 2 weeks and not at the dealer yet but are priced at 5K over MSRP. One I think is 10K over asking. All are 4 door.

 

[Silver-Bolt]

Bozeman Ford has 6-7 Dealer Order units and according to the blend dates on the WS were just produced in the past 2 weeks and not at the dealer yet but are priced at 5K over MSRP. One I think is 10K over asking. All are 4 door.

There is a lot of California money in Boze-Angeles.

 

[Scopebit]

Bozeman Ford has 6-7 Dealer Order units and according to the blend dates on the WS were just produced in the past 2 weeks and not at the dealer yet but are priced at 5K over MSRP. One I think is 10K over asking. All are 4 door.

Daughter is at MSU and i have stalked the Bozeman Ford 3 times over the last 18 months. Based on what you wrote and from what I've seen during those 3 trips, I'd say the ADM is coming down, but VERY slowly.

Demand is softening, but supply is still woefully inadequate.

THIS!

 

[72F262]

I think the problem with this is finding a dealer who actually charges MSRP. When searching online they all show the original price until you go in person and it's marked up. If I could score a base CO 2 door at MSRP I'd be willing to fly halfway across the country to pick it up.

After you find one that is actually on their lot (pictures are not stock ones), send an email to the sales manager with your offer. I have found dealers hate talking via text or email, which is good for the buyer. If they say no, just move on to the next one.

 

[EveryDayBronco]

What is interesting to me is that Bronco's are sitting on lots much more so than they did 6 months ago. I have been following a few that have been available for almost a month - granted I haven't called the dealer to see what the mark up is. I have no issues waiting until the craziness ends. I refuse to pay over MSRP and fine with waiting a year or 2 if that is what it takes.

It will be interesting to see what the conversion rate of reservations to orders are. The economy is much different than what it was a year ago. I wouldn't be surprised more than a few people decide not to change their 22 orders to 23.

6 months ago there were hardly any broncos and today they're finally delivering orders placed a year go.

Gas is up $1 from 2 weeks ago, lots of people going to be hurting this Christmas but they still need to drive to work.

Work from home is ending too! Employers are now realizing they're paying same for 1/2 the productivity.

It's a shite show in this country!

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