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Message to FORD – From a Bronco Reservation Holder & Potential Customer
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It was here https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/thre...build-date-estimates.5793/page-49#post-206615
But it was a couple posts down where a couple dealers came on to explain in detail how it works.But alas not official , just their version. That led to 35+ pages of spew lol
Ford asking a dealer to remove a post explaining the math and details about the new reservation/allocation system for the dealers says volumes about Ford. The dealer was being totally transparent and Ford did not like that. It’s obviously due to the fact that they lied to the actual customer about how the reservation system orders would be filled.
Why can’t Ford be honest to the end consumer?
Guys this is how I think it is.
There are maybe about 150,000 reservations and let’s assume half of that, 75,000 or so may materialize into actual orders.
Maybe half or about 6,000 members of b6g will place an order. Which means about 70,000 of the orders will be placed by customers not on this site. So the majority of Bronco buyers have no idea who Granger or the other popular dealerships we all know are. The vast majority of customers have reserved with and will buy from their local Ford dealerships in whatever city they live in.
Therefore it is reasonable for Ford to allocate more units to whatever dealerships have more reservations and converted orders.
The order in which the vehicles get built by Ford depends on the timing of placement of the orders when the window for placement opens and has nothing to do with how many units were allocated to which dealership.
So if you’re purchasing through the process of reservations the size of the dealership you picked doesn’t matter.
If you’re going to buy lot units at any dealership after the wave of initial purchases via reservations is over, you can buy on the spot but will in all likelihood have to pay ADM. In this case you are more likely to find lot units at large city dealerships which will get more units because of their historic larger sales volumes.
So Bronco buyers who are buying via reservation need not worry about the size of the dealership they have picked to receive their Bronco from. They are the buyers and their picked dealer is simply the portal of delivery.
There are maybe about 150,000 reservations and let’s assume half of that, 75,000 or so may materialize into actual orders.
Maybe half or about 6,000 members of b6g will place an order. Which means about 70,000 of the orders will be placed by customers not on this site. So the majority of Bronco buyers have no idea who Granger or the other popular dealerships we all know are. The vast majority of customers have reserved with and will buy from their local Ford dealerships in whatever city they live in.
Therefore it is reasonable for Ford to allocate more units to whatever dealerships have more reservations and converted orders.
The order in which the vehicles get built by Ford depends on the timing of placement of the orders when the window for placement opens and has nothing to do with how many units were allocated to which dealership.
So if you’re purchasing through the process of reservations the size of the dealership you picked doesn’t matter.
If you’re going to buy lot units at any dealership after the wave of initial purchases via reservations is over, you can buy on the spot but will in all likelihood have to pay ADM. In this case you are more likely to find lot units at large city dealerships which will get more units because of their historic larger sales volumes.
So Bronco buyers who are buying via reservation need not worry about the size of the dealership they have picked to receive their Bronco from. They are the buyers and their picked dealer is simply the portal of delivery.
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That chart seems spot on.
You may have to wrap it. I'd suggest ordering Shadow Black and keep the bars unwrapped. Then go to Katzkin and get a veg-tan looking leather interior with cooled seats!
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Without knowing the actual formula there is no way to guess the distribution numbers. It's possible FoMoCo puts more weight than we know on # of reservations which would skew distribution towards high reservation number. It's possible reservations has low weight.
Example: Reservations could be squared to give them more weight, or divided to remove weight. The same could be true of all other variables in the formula. Without knowing the exact formula, which is very very very unlikely to leak, there is no way to know exactly how it's weighted. Then there is the golden rule: "He who has the gold makes the rules" FoMoCo holds the gold right now. ?
Wow. Is this the post Granger had started about the allocation process? And now Ford asks to to have it removed? I’m confused, so Ford is upset that one of their dealers were open and honest- upfront with their customers. So Ford says we don’t care for that kind of transparency , we prefer you be vague, little sneaky, and basically be the dealerships that many customers across the nation are running away from pulling their hair out...
Ford asking a dealer to remove a post explaining the math and details about the new reservation/allocation system for the dealers says volumes about Ford. The dealer was being totally transparent and Ford did not like that. It’s obviously due to the fact that they lied to the actual customer about how the reservation system orders would be filled.
Why can’t Ford be honest to the end consumer?
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Well, Albert didn’t spill the beans on the “formulas” being used... on purpose. A couple others did. I think intentionally was vague and only offered to reassure his customers of the process.
the big guys on here came and made everyone go nuts with the situation.
My impressions are that the ones that spilled the specific formulas may be in some hot water. Not our Albert
Edit: I need to put my phone down. Way too involved in this hahaa
I agree. It was the other dealers that gave away all the sordid secrets.Well, Albert didn’t spill the beans on the “formulas” being used... on purpose. A couple others did. I think intentionally was vague and only offered to reassure his customers of the process.
the big guys on here came and made everyone go nuts with the situation.
My impressions are that the ones that spilled the specific formulas may be in some hot water. Not our Albert
If Ford had any sense they'd offer Albert a position on their board of directors. He's quickly approaching cult status and has managed to do what every CMO in America strives to do for their brand: build a devoted fanbase that will drive further (though not all will have to), pay more (though most of us will pay much less), and wait longer (though I doubt that will end up being the case) to buy from someone they trust.
Or they could just put him in charge of corporate training and let him retrain the old guard that's still stuck in the "us against the customer" selling dynamic that went out of style a generation ago.
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So are we worried that if you put in order in with a dealer that has a lot of reservations that you could get moved back in the ordering process?
or are we worried that you could lose the reservation all together?
After reading the posts I'm a little confused.
Personally I'd like to buy the Bronco from whichever dealer can give me the best deal.
or are we worried that you could lose the reservation all together?
After reading the posts I'm a little confused.
Personally I'd like to buy the Bronco from whichever dealer can give me the best deal.
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