Sasquatch tires possibly very light

[broncosor]

So the Sasquatch tire is the new Goodyear Territory MT.
This tire is already available in 265/60/20 on Tire rack for a wight of 42 lbs in Load C range.
The popular BFG KO2 are only available in E load range for this size, at 57 lbs.

However, I could compare 2 KO2 of the same size (285/70/17) in both C and E range to see approximately how much E range adds in weight. The answer is 7lbs so we can safely assume a KO2 in 265/60/20 would be about 50 lbs.

What that all means is that a Goodyear Territory MT would be approximately 20% lighter than the exact same (size and load) KO2. Very good news if true.
Of course this relies on Tirerack spec accuracy. But I am sure the Territory will be soon available in 35" anyway because the TRX is out and uses those.

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[AcesandEights]

Why would that be good news? Just wondering why a lighter tire is a better tire, or are you considering the weight as it relates to GVWR? Might, and I'm not saying this is necessariy true, a heavier tire be a more well constructed tire?

 

[Gamecock]

I guess it would be "very good news" if you never take it off road. Otherwise, you want a thick, durable tire. C rated tires are already marginal. Pushing the limit wouldn't be a good thing if you're buying an off road vehicle with 35s.

 

[GaryB2220]

Why would that be good news? Just wondering why a lighter tire is a better tire, or are you considering the weight as it relates to GVWR? Might, and I'm not saying this is necessariy true, a heavier tire be a more well constructed tire?

Heavier tires require more energy to rotate. So, gas mileage and engine load are impacted.

 

[CPL_Rabbit]

Why would that be good news? Just wondering why a lighter tire is a better tire, or are you considering the weight as it relates to GVWR? Might, and I'm not saying this is necessariy true, a heavier tire be a more well constructed tire?

It's a benefit to fuel consumption, acceleration, braking, and mechanical wear. 'Unsprung' mass is worth more, physics-wise, than the suspended stuff.

 

[Paul Gagnon]

You're comparing two tires of very different construction, of course they are going to be different weights.

 

[Apples]

265/60r20 is practically a rubber band compared to a 285/70r17. There's A LOT more rubber on the 285 before even taking into consideration the difference in ply.

 

[AcesandEights]

Points taken; however, I would think the benefit between the two, based solely on weight, would be minimal.

 

[lobbs611]

Not exactly thrilled if the Goodyears really are only load C rated. Will more than likely be looking to swap out to load E tires ASAP now.

 

[TRACKTOY]

hi
Bad experience with BF K02 load range C after 2 years used on gravel road about
12 k the tire come soft on the sidewall at 40 PSI. and i blow the tire..... For me only load range E nevermind the rolling mass and gaz . when you blow a tire on a gravel road in the woods or trail it`s not fun at all . lighter tire is good on paved road only my opinion.....do`nt trust me try it and you remember me when you blow your tire...
If you plant to go on a mud bog you need super swamper. or gumbo monster mudder. but on regular off road a good load range E and you back home free of trouble.
TRACKTOY

 

[Firefly]

The bronco is not pushing the structural or weight limits of a C rated tire, on or off road. An E rated tire is more expensive, and would add extra weight and structure that is not needed.
Second point. I don't know why anyone would want to put a 20" rim on a Bronco.

 

[Mattwings]

Unsprung weight is one of the most difficult variables to control. All things being equal, less weight is much easier to control, on top of the other benefits mentioned. Ride, handling, steering are all benefited by or hampered by weight. Small differences created significant changes required to maintain acceptable performance on those parameters. It's one reason lifts and larger tires often cause uneven tire wear, rough or spongy/springy ride and poor handling (other than poorly engineered or installed components or moving components outside of optimized geometry).

 

[Apples]

The bronco is not pushing the structural or weight limits of a C rated tire, on or off road. An E rated tire is more expensive, and would add extra weight and structure that is not needed.

E load tires provide extra sidewall protection. That's not something that is always needed but it is absolutely necessary when wheeling out west. Sharp rocks and ledges tear the hell out of tires.

 

[TRACKTOY]

The bronco is not pushing the structural or weight limits of a C rated tire, on or off road. An E rated tire is more expensive, and would add extra weight and structure that is not needed.
Second point. I don't know why anyone would want to put a 20" rim on a Bronco.

HI
20`` rim is for mall crawller only because for airing down a tire the best is 16`` or 17 inch rim not enough rubber for prevent breaking rim on pothole with 20 inch rim.
tracktoy

 

[Gamecock]

The bronco is not pushing the structural or weight limits of a C rated tire, on or off road. An E rated tire is more expensive, and would add extra weight and structure that is not needed.
Second point. I don't know why anyone would want to put a 20" rim on a Bronco.

It's not about the structural weight off road that is the concern with a tire, it's about the fact that a thinner C (fewer plies) is much more easily cut.

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