Simple, No Cost Solution to Dirt Mountain

[Efthreeoh]

And you will notice that I wasn't the one crying about mileage in that thread either. My solution was stated earlier in this thread.



Basically, I want an alternative that we can opt in for that allows me to have my Bronco shipped as opposed to having no option other than to wait.

As I stated previously, I vote for a waiver against MIC top cosmetic issues, so if a customer wants his Bronco and doesn't care about the top cosmetics, Ford should sell the vehicle to the customer with the waiver in place. Lawyers will not let that happen however.

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[mpeugeot]

My Supra sat on my dealers front lawn from early August 2019 (with a big fat ADM dickey on it) to the end of April 2020 (when the world was ending and they sold it well under MSRP to me)

7 miles on it when I purchased it. No issues.

Yep, this is how I got my 2006 SV1000s for $6,800 out the door (TTL and everything) for well under the MSRP of $8,600 ($9,000 TTL included). 1 mile on the speedometer (and still have it). It however was stored indoors at the dealership.

Most companies will not want to release an incomplete or defective vehicle to the public.

I understand Ford refusing to deliver a defective top, but a defective top does not make the vehicle incomplete, it only makes the order incomplete, which could be easily remedied with a credit for the missing part and a waiver from the customer.

As I stated previously, I vote for a waiver against MIC top cosmetic issues, so if a customer wants his Bronco and doesn't care about the top cosmetics, Ford should sell the vehicle to the customer with the waiver in place. Lawyers will not let that happen however.

I would be 100% on-board with that. I was planning on replacing the hard-top with a soft-top anyway. Although, I would prefer to have both, I can do fine with the soft-top alone.

 

[TN Bronco]

The Broncos that are/were in that lot will be repaired and at dealers before the 2022's, making the wait time argument moot. Yeah, those VIN holders get shafted, but no more than people who don't have VINS (they are waiting the same extra time for the roofs to be built right), just the extra amount from having the 'built soon' rug pulled out from under them (the degree of said extra shafting is up for debate), but the extra wait time is already locked in, even if shipped to a clean room, they wouldn't get them until the roofs are fixed. No fix for lost time, again renders OP's complaint about suffering more due to time loss moot.

The trucks will be inspected, cleaned up, repaired, and will have a full warranty. Any hidden damage will most assuredly come up during the warranty period and be addressed. That takes care of the OP's damage concerns as well.

We come to the final and the only actual beef; they don't want to get a late 2021 when a month later the 2022's well be rolling out. It is exactly the same as them getting a December build VIN and then wanting to 99 it, then get right back in the front of the line for the 2022 MY. They want to send those late build trucks to the dealers to be ADM'd, thus making every single person behind them wait longer. That is not reasonable.

Anyone who argues that everyone should suffer/wait more and dealers should get late build hardtops (with the improved tops) before the 2022 reservations are filled just so they can, as previously mentioned in another post; get two bites at the apple, is wrong. Those vehicles are coming first, either we get them or dealers do.

If you wanted a 2022, could have 99'd, instead you risked getting a late 2021 build just like the rest of us. Now you want everyone to wait so you can go first in 2022. You decided to take the risk of getting a late 2021, live with the results of your choice like an adult, the other concerns are moot as referenced above.

A real 'solution' to those affected is an extended warranty on those particular vehicles. You got a 2021 MIC VIN, it will be delivered before the 2022 MIC's, all mechanical/cosmetic problems, should they even occur, will be addressed and warrantied. Congratulations on your new inaugural year Bronco!

Lots of interesting opinions throughout this thread, but this one is ill informed and misstates my original point. To clarify:
- most of us would take our slightly defective Broncos now rather than have them sit, but not likely going to happen
- There is a legitimate concern and annoyance about the cosmetic impact of sitting outside for 5-6 months. Not normal for a custom ordered vehicle. You may not care, but not how I plan to treat the vehicle. The expectation with an order is “fresh off the line.” I don’t need an extended warranty and that does nothing for the cosmetic concerns.
- Timing to wait on a ‘22 would be real… take a ‘21 in November vs. ‘22 in February or later. That is a sacrifice and for me would mean giving up the FE.
- I did not “take the risk of a late model year”. With the FE, waiting for a ‘22 was never an option. I’ll happily take the last FE off the line in ‘21 if given the option.
- This was never a casino bet, we ordered a vehicle and it unfortunately has not gone as planned.
- Lastly, the anger towards fellow Bronco enthusiasts is misplaced. Let’s assume 25% of the 2,000 Dirt Mountain prisoners chose to wait for a ‘22. Adding maybe 1 day delay to your wait after 18 months is really that bothersome?

As someone said, give us the illusion of some choice and it would appease most of us and cost nothing.

 

[Bob 07064]

Lots of interesting opinions throughout this thread, but this one is ill informed and misstates my original point. To clarify:
- most of us would take our slightly defective Broncos now rather than have them sit, but not likely going to happen
- There is a legitimate concern and annoyance about the cosmetic impact of sitting outside for 5-6 months. Not normal for a custom ordered vehicle. You may not care, but not how I plan to treat the vehicle. The expectation with an order is “fresh off the line.” I don’t need an extended warranty and that does nothing for the cosmetic concerns.
- Timing to wait on a ‘22 would be real… take a ‘21 in November vs. ‘22 in February or later. That is a sacrifice and for me would mean giving up the FE.
- I did not “take the risk of a late model year”. With the FE, waiting for a ‘22 was never an option. I’ll happily take the last FE off the line in ‘21 if given the option.
- This was never a casino bet, we ordered a vehicle and it unfortunately has not gone as planned.
- Lastly, the anger towards fellow Bronco enthusiasts is misplaced. Let’s assume 25% of the 2,000 Dirt Mountain prisoners chose to wait for a ‘22. Adding maybe 1 day delay to your wait after 18 months is really that bothersome?

As someone said, give us the illusion of some choice and it would appease most of us and cost nothing.

Buying this bronco is like buying groceries. You fill your cart with what you want and assume it's yours. Problem is is its not until you pay for it. Unless you have a contract for an agreed upon price, then once it gets delivered you either buy it, negotiate a better deal or walk away.... Nobody is forcing you to buy the truck

 

[mpeugeot]

As someone said, give us the illusion of some choice and it would appease most of us and cost nothing.

I think you hit the nail on the head with this one line, and I hope that @Ford Motor Company reads it.

This would improve the PR aspect of the situation immensely and give us far less to possibly to complain about. I really don't want to complain, I want a viable alternative, and if I opt not to take it; that's on me!

 

[TN Bronco]

Buying this bronco is like buying groceries. You fill your cart with what you want and assume it's yours. Problem is is its not until you pay for it. Unless you have a contract for an agreed upon price, then once it gets delivered you either buy it, negotiate a better deal or walk away.... Nobody is forcing you to buy the truck

Really poor and silly analogy… we’re not buying a $3 gallon of milk, in my case a $65k vehicle. And when I get to the counter and notice the milk is expired or just doesn’t look good, they let me get another, it’s not “sorry take this one or nothing.”

We all still want a Bronco, but hope it’s one we like. And Ford wants the same.

 

[Efthreeoh]

I would be 100% on-board with that. I was planning on replacing the hard-top with a soft-top anyway. Although, I would prefer to have both, I can do fine with the soft-top alone.

I would be 100% on-board with that. I was planning on replacing the hard-top with a soft-top anyway. Although, I would prefer to have both, I can do fine with the soft-top alone.

I'd fill the edges with epoxy resin if that's an issue for durability and longevity. Then just vinyl wrap the top if the snakeskin is hideous. But anyway, from pics of the skin, I think it looks pretty neat. Lol.

I really want to see the MIC in person to judge for myself.

 

[Bob 07064]

Really poor and silly analogy… we’re not buying a $3 gallon of milk, in my case a $65k vehicle. And when I get to the counter and notice the milk is expired or just doesn’t look good, they let me get another, it’s not “sorry take this one or nothing.”

We all still want a Bronco, but hope it’s one we like. And Ford wants the same.

The point is nobody is making you buy the milk or the truck. If the rig comes damaged there are ways it could be remedied... But it, have it deed or move on....
It's not "yours" till you pay for it!

 

[mpeugeot]

Buying this bronco is like buying groceries. You fill your cart with what you want and assume it's yours. Problem is is its not until you pay for it. Unless you have a contract for an agreed upon price, then once it gets delivered you either buy it, negotiate a better deal or walk away.... Nobody is forcing you to buy the truck

As said, I have paid for it.

 

[Carolina Jim]

we’re not buying a $3 gallon of milk...when I get to the counter and notice the milk is expired or just doesn’t look good, they let me get another, it’s not “sorry take this one or nothing.”

Turns out 'milk' had a longer shelf life than MIC 1.0 that Ford spent 6 years engineering and developing. Ironic, eh?

 

[Bob 07064]

As said, I have paid for it.

You sir I feel for.... Especially since you have no recourse.

 

[TN Bronco]

You sir I feel for.... Especially since you have no recourse.

Agreed. Your situation is bizarre and unfortunate and sucks more than most. Hang in there.

 

[mpeugeot]

You sir I feel for.... Especially since you have no recourse.

Thanks... It wouldn't be a big deal, IF @Ford Motor Company, said to me, "Hey, we need 30 days to sort this out" or "Here are some alternatives that we can arrange to help resolve this". I could at least figure something out.

Nope, just crickets from @Ford Motor Company, and maybe we'll reach out to you in September or October with an update. When @Ford Motor Company has never emailed me once. I have the FordPass application on my phone, I have an account on their website, and they know my VIN number (1FMDE5CP2MLA76229).

So they have no excuse for not contacting me. I even contacted their customer service (quickly learned how hopeless that was) and filled out the customer survey expressing my concerns and displeasure with the lack of information regarding my vehicle. It appears that they simply don't care.

 

[Carolina Jim]

It appears that they simply don't care.

OR, they are simply dazed and confused

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