Snow breaches inside of Bronco w/ soft top during blizzard claims owner

[schlava]

How many times has the title of this post changed!

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[DANGL3]

I agree that it's fishy, but why would the top be open in a place that rarely gets above -10 degrees this time of year?

 

[DeztroShow]

he is a cousin of mine and I don't know how this could have happened, i think the bronco was left for days in these conditions but i can't be for sure.

the winds are def strong enough esp if theres no seal on the soft top. sucks for sure. but easy enough to remove as its so cold out it hasnt melted.

 

[Maddmax98]

I can see how this is possible. I was in a whiteout this past weekend in Kremmling CO, and with sidewinds snow was coming in-between the frame and the soft top. Definitely wasn't this severe but it was snowing inside my bronco with everything closed up

 

[HoosierDaddy]

To validate this claim it has to be repeatable. I’ll wait to see if it happens again either in simulation or actual experience of someone else.

Ok, I'll buy that... but in the mean time, due to my experience with my 2dr hardtop, I'll definitely label the OP as "PLAUSIBLE".
Just my opinion, and experience. Many others here strongly disagree.
Thus far, my experience with the hardtop tells me we are going to see A LOT of issues show up.

 

[Paul Gagnon]

I've seen some pretty weird things happen with blowing snow and extreme cold. Looks like tiny crystals so it could be blowing in through the cowl vent.

As long as he cleaned it up while it was still frozen there should be no permanent damage.

 

[Dewreckingcrew]

With a frameless window, coupled with harsh conditions, I'll mark this down as plausible. These conditions could have prevented the window from sealing properly the last time he drove it (packed snow, ice on outside of window, cold weather leading to dragging/slowed electronics). Typically the window drops when the door is opened and then goes back up when closed, there are numerous things in those conditions that could have prevented that process from happening cleanly the last time he got out. Then a high wind storm comes, and this is the ending result.

 

[Bradyrufenacht]

I worked in Prudhoe Bay for years and think it is possible. We encountered 80 to 100 mile winds in the winter and the slightest opening would let the snow in. Once in, it swirls around and finds something to land on. Different I agree, but I have had engine cavities so full and tightly packed, you couldn't chisel it out. Had to haul it to a building and let it thaw. Not saying this isn't BS and I don't have my Bronco to look at the top, just saying I think it is possible. Maybe

 

[ChrisD]

That should be good.
Just don't drive in the rain or snow with a cross wind.

Haha, I've done that, too - I get some breeze up above the windows where the top rests on the roll cage, but so far no leakage. At least not enough to get me wet.

But me, bah, I have the heater going usually in the winter and I drove enough military M998 HMMWVs in the Army where we were sealing up the top with 100 MPH tape to try to keep it from raining on the inside. A little weather inside the vehicle doesn't bother me much.

If I want to drive in luxurious silence while the seat massages my butt, I'll borrow the wife's Lincoln!

 

[ChrisD]

Good insight! Like he didn't shut the door all of the way, which in turn the window didn't roll up and seal (or windows). Not a bad thought. Still a weird way for the snow to fall straight down, like the top was open.

I've had quite a few problems with the window sealing properly on mine. The dealership can't figure it out and the Ford engineering team wasn't any help either. I've kind of come up with a ritual I perform when it happens. I haven't graduated to animal sacrifice yet, but so far, I've been able to correct it by wiggling connectors.

Like I said, I left a Tahoe with the window cracked a few mm overnight in Cheyenne WY one time and woke up with the inside looking pretty much like these photos. Fortunately, it was cold as hell out, so I used the window scraper/brush thing the rental company left in it to sweep it out before starting it up.

Then the highway patrol had closed 25 and I needed to get to Denver to fly, so I drove a bunch of back roads all the way to Denver. That was an annoying long day.

 

[Zeebo390]

Friends, before you all rip this guy a new one thinking he left something open and is BS’ing, please consider a few things:

First: maybe 1 out of every 1000 forum members live in or regularly visit north of the arctic circle. I’ve only been once in my entire life. But North Dakota and Alberta don’t count, they are a completely different world. Nobody in Tuktoyaktuk has any reason whatsoever to open a soft top roof or even roll down their windows between October and April. It’s not like there are toll booths, McDonalds drive thrus, or drive up ATMs there.

Second: at arctic-level subzero temps blown snow becomes a fine dust that gets through anything without a super tight seal. If that soft top lifted even a little gap during gusts (or if the quarter inch auto up/down for the frameless windows didn’t seal just right) then this guy’s experience is the exact same thing that happens with McMurdo station’s door seals during condition 1 weather in the Antarctic:

So let’s give my man the benefit of the doubt. He probably just paid the price for being desperate enough to change his order to a soft top when he spends time in places like that.

 

[JPG]

If the OP of this flaming ranting thread would be honest he would also post the video of the guy showing how is soft top is fucked up... But i doubt he will. got to love keyboard crusaders...

 

[SupremoSombrero]

Uniform snow everywhere- could only be he left the top down to create some sensational fakenews

 

[OhhhhhhSnap]

Friends, before you all rip this guy a new one thinking he left something open and is BS’ing, please consider a few things:

First: maybe 1 out of every 1000 forum members live in or regularly visit north of the arctic circle. I’ve only been once in my entire life. But North Dakota and Alberta don’t count, they are a completely different world. Nobody in Tuktoyaktuk has any reason whatsoever to open a soft top roof or even roll down their windows between October and April. It’s not like there are toll booths, McDonalds drive thrus, or drive up ATMs there.

Second: at arctic-level subzero temps blown snow becomes a fine dust that gets through anything without a super tight seal. If that soft top lifted even a little gap during gusts (or if the quarter inch auto up/down for the frameless windows didn’t seal just right) then this guy’s experience is the exact same thing that happens with McMurdo station’s door seals during condition 1 weather in the Antarctic:

So let’s give my man the benefit of the doubt. He probably just paid the price for being desperate enough to change his order to a soft top when he spends time in places like that.

Ok lets assume this guy is 100% telling the truth.

Why the fuck are you taking a soft top vehicle in subzero artic temperatures? That's asking for trouble if you break down or slide off the road.


Common sense ain't so common though eh?

 

[usarms]

No way that is what actually happened. Total BS.

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