I think I would be happy with any V6 they offered. I am not a fan of the 2.3l 4 cylinder. 5.0 would be awesome but I sure it will never happen.
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I think I would be happy with any V6 they offered. I am not a fan of the 2.3l 4 cylinder. 5.0 would be awesome but I'm sure it will never happen. We will only get a V6 if they offer it in the ranger as well.
Good comeback and you are right that if you have really, really low torque you will need higher rpms to deliver the power. Although I'm not too worried about Ford putting a 10,000 rpm single cylinder engine in the Bronco. I really hope they put a V8 in it, but it would be a bit of a surprise for me.As long as you don't mind having your engine sound like a weed-eater.
Yeah - I'm so tired of the V6 EGOboost sounds. And the ECO is nothing worth boasting about, either.The more we learn about the Bronco the less interested i become. I really don't think we will see a 2 door sport utility in the traditional sense. A V-8 motor is more remote. Look at the Raptor and the Ford GT have an ecoboast. The engines are good, very good just not something I am interested in. Also I think it will be very difficult to pry the Jeep faithful away from the Wrangler, customer loyalty to this brand is incredible.
They're not all that much larger than what you find in a 1-ton truck. Plenty of "big rigs" have a 6-7L inline engine in them. But if you're talking displacement to load ratio, they're a good example of why little engines look better on paper than in reality -- they'll be working that new 10-speed auto a lot more than larger displacement engines will....
What I would hate to have is an engine with lots of low end torque that runs out of breath early and doesn't make much higher RPM power. I don't want a semi - shift, shift, shift, shift, shift - now I'm up to 10 mph. Those big diesels make a lot of torque, but I don't want one in a Bronco.
Which is no doubt why they've recently favored the "echo" pronunciation rather than the obvious "eco" they meant when first introduced. If the average driver dips into the skinny pedal while daily driving (because hey, it's fun!) they will not see much of an economy improvement over a larger V8 that sounds much, much better....Yeah - I'm so tired of the V6 EGOboost sounds. And the ECO is nothing worth boasting about, either.
Well said!! 100% agree.They're not all that much larger than what you find in a 1-ton truck. Plenty of "big rigs" have a 6-7L inline engine in them. But if you're talking displacement to load ratio, they're a good example of why little engines look better on paper than in reality -- they'll be working that new 10-speed auto a lot more than larger displacement engines will.
The good low end with a disappointing top end is exactly what they did to the international Ranger Raptor, with a 2L bi-turbo diesel. Sporty down low, but you have to be careful when you want to try to pass someone on the highway -- major failure for something that was supposed to bring the Raptor experience to the rest of the world.
Which is no doubt why they've recently favored the "echo" pronunciation rather than the obvious "eco" they meant when first introduced. If the average driver dips into the skinny pedal while daily driving (because hey, it's fun!) they will not see much of an economy improvement over a larger V8 that sounds much, much better.
Not to mention the fake V8 engine sounds they pipe in through the speaker system for small engines to make the experience more appealing, without offering any way to turn it off.
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The Bronco will need good torque down low for offroading, and a smooth power delivery. Snappy or lurching power from a turbo kicking in will break parts and get you in more trouble on the trail, even if it seems fun when you're by yourself beating a hipster in a new Blazer crossover off the line. The Bronco also needs to be a good cruiser with enough grunt and leg room up top to carry a load of camping etc. gear for a few people out on the highway when you want to go on a great American cross-country vacation etc.
I see the 5.0L V8 and a "detuned" 3.0L V6 as the best options to deliver those things. Both of those engines leave room for the aftermarket or Ford Performance to tune up for sport/show vehicles and a Bronco Raptor -- in a way that the existing pool of Bronco enthusiasts will not get "excited" about for a 2.3L I4. Ford needs to make it easy for a big aftermarket of enthusiasts and suppliers to build up quickly around the Bronco if they really want to take on Jeep and the Wrangler -- that is one of their strengths, and one of the things that will serve as the largest barriers to gaining market share in that lucrative segment.
$40-50k is the range that I would expect most Bronco's to sell in. Just look at the competition, Wrangler's and 4Runner's move most of their volume in that price range, and that is one of the big things that motivated Ford to build the Bronco.... Even if it did, they would want $40-$50K, or more, for the thing...
Agree! With Ford's almost total pivot to SUV/trucks, they'd be smart to make the Bronco as appealing as possible to serve as their halo SUV - to help draw attention to Ford's other SUVs.They just need to build something people will actually buy. Alternatively the Bronco needs to lure customers in who will buy some other Ford model -- which is something else the Wrangler does well for the Jeep brand.