760hp 5.2 supercharged (GT500) Predator engine swap Bronco info thread

[BDrool]

That is interesting. I heard it a long time ago, from a Ford engineer on the project. Maybe Ford just made it stick i.e. Warthog vs. Raptor.

However, while the engines are physically identical, there are changes not seen by the untrained eye or can even be seen at all. The 760/625 vs. 700/640 can't really be done with just a tune. Some mechanical changes had to be made as well.

Also like to add, the 5.2 Voodoo is literally the same dimensions as well. All three are related...

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[BDrool]

That is interesting. I heard it a long time ago, from a Ford engineer on the project. Maybe Ford just made it stick i.e. Warthog vs. Raptor.

However, while the engines are physically identical, there are changes not seen by the untrained eye or can even be seen at all. The 760/625 vs. 700/640 can't really be done with just a tune. Some mechanical changes had to be made as well.

Just like to add, the 5.2 Voodoo is physical the same as well but much different inside. All three are related...

 

[Ducati1098]

That is interesting. I heard it a long time ago, from a Ford engineer on the project. Maybe Ford just made it stick i.e. Warthog vs. Raptor.

However, while the engines are physically identical, there are changes not seen by the untrained eye or can even be seen at all. The 760/625 vs. 700/640 can't really be done with just a tune. Some mechanical changes had to be made as well.

Yeah the code name Warthog for the Bronco Raptor is mentioned in multiple places, including PTS/Oasis. Which is why I don't think Carnivore is an actual code name since I don't see it mentioned anywhere, but I could be wrong.

But I agree, there are minor differences to the 5.2 between the Raptor R and GT500. The supercharger part number is different and also the cylinder heads. I would guess the exhaust manifolds are also different for packaging between models.

The parts catalog also shows Predator code name for both the Raptor R and GT500

 

[BAUS67]

This is perfect!!! it's sounds so ANTI-Vegan! ROFL

Can anyone else confirm the "CARNIVORE" name?

I can see the badges now, " Powered by CARNIVORE"

Yes it is.......

https://fordauthority.com/2022/06/f...p the road,embodied by the Carnivore codename.

 

[BAUS67]

Code name Daisy...................

Petunia..................

Calliope, Fords FIRST SOHC ...............

Just thought I would through those out there for your consumption.

 

[j_marinelli]

Code name Daisy...................

Petunia..................

Calliope, Fords FIRST SOHC ...............

Just thought I would through those out there for your consumption.

Man I remember having a MotorTrend magazine with "Daisy" on the front cover Nothing better than getting a magazine in the mail as a kid/teenager...

 

[NatureMan]

Man I remember having a MotorTrend magazine with "Daisy" on the front cover Nothing better than getting a magazine in the mail as a kid/teenager...

The ones in plastic bags at the gas stations were better.

 

[mpeugeot]

God damn! I just want a plain ol 5.0... This thing is going to be badass!

LOL, I have simple tastes too, I just want a 2018+ F-150 supercrew to build an XTF from.

My favorite Ford V8 remains the BOSS 351C, but I know that the modern engines are so much better.

 

[BDrool]

LOL on the above. And "RTedback" for the Ranger Raptor is a new one on me.
Hey, is "Godzilla" an animal. I can imagine "Silverback" for a brute of ???

 

[Herewegoagain]

I plan on eventually doing a Predator engine swap, on either my own Bronco or someone else's. this thread will be a information base for other who are interested to follow along this LENGTHY process.

The goal is simple, shoehorn in the 5.2 supercharged GT500 engine into a bronco. The fabrication and bults and nuts are the straightforward and fairly easy part to solve., HOWEVER the biggest hurtle to overcome is obviously mateing all the electronic wizardry in our broncos to the new 5.2 PCM . For this to work properly everything must work 100% OEM. The ABS system, power steering control module, transmission system, goat modes, and all the other systems must work in conjunction and have no codes or problems.


There will be plenty of folks that say it can't be done or why should it be done or it shouldn't be done or this is a dumb idea or whatever and that's fine everybody has their own opinion.

I have complete confidence that this can be completed as I have over 20 engine swaps under my belt and most of them are engines that were not designed to go into the vehicles that I stuffed them into. It will be easier with this experience.

My plan of attack is to get all of the modules working on a bench prior to even purchasing the engine. This will take time, research $$$ and lots of help from others as well.

I'll be adding pictures, comparisons measurements and tons of technical information in the near future.

If anyone else is also interested in doing this fantastic swap I would be interested in teaming up and sharing investments and resources.

Because this engine is now also offered in the f150 Raptor "R", many of the modules will be able to be re programed and asbuilts modified to work together with the Bronco.


guru automotive genius' like @Bmadda and parts gurus like @flip can hopefully chime in and add usefull information as this thread progesses. programming champs like @mpeugeot could chime in with ideas or theories as well. this will need to be a group effort to succeed.

I will be adding more information soon.

I am extremely interested in project! Sounds like it's going to be a beast. I read most of the questions and answers but I was wondering with all that extra horsepower what upgrades are you going to have to do to the drive train to handle it??

 

[vrtical]

You probably don't have access to a Bronco DR file. I know it was built by Multimatic not sure how the programming was done, but if you could find that file you would be miles ahead of the game.

https://www.ford.com/bronco/bronco-dr/

I can probably find out, I have some good connections. I might see them next week.

 

[OldStyleBronco]

So, here we go.... I've been wasting my breath saying the Bronco needs a V8 and getting berated by v6 fan boys....Look, I'm just here in hopes you carry this through...You have y support... I was thinking the Godzilla engine would be a gd match. But, I'm open to being proven wrong... Good luck... If you were nearby, I'd lend a hand. I don't see a bronco in my future until we solve this V8 issue.....

 

[Felix808]

You have my attention.

 

[BAUS67]

I can probably find out, I have some good connections. I might see them next week.

AWESOME!!! That would help out BMB immensely.

 

[mike8675309]

I don't have the time or funds to help right now, but I can see this being a thing 5 years from now. Right now I'm planning on a 500ci+ big block ford put in a 2nd gen Bronco just for fun. I can see my next project in a late model bronco.

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