Black Diamond off-roading without Sasquatch

[ColbyFromBama]

Well this went South fast.

Some people just like to argue. Unfortunately, I’m the type of guy that won’t let them get away with it.

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[Newbie]

As much as I hope that you’re right, I still think we are deserving of a demonstration. It’s hard enough to purchase a vehicle without ever touching it. It’s even harder to make that purchase without even knowing it’s capability.

Here's a demonstration!

 

[Efthreeoh]

Most intelligent people would like proof/demonstration of the capability of a vehicle, before spending 47k on it. But if you’re the type of guy that takes every corporation at their word... I have a lot of things I need to sell you!

The BD doesn't have a front locking diff. And it doesn't have a swaybar disconnect. BFD. You make it sound like the BD will get stuck in 2" of wet gravel.

Give it a rest man, the BD will go almost any place your balls are willing to drive it.

 

[GotGOAT]

Being “better than a Bronco Sport” isn’t really the benchmark I’m looking for unfortunately

The point was that there are videos of the Bronco Sport doing some of the same terrain as Squatch Broncos. But whatever, let us know when Ford “caves into your demands”.

 

[dgorsett]

It would be nice to see non Squatched Broncos performing, but that would be counter to up-selling philosophy. Ford wants to sell up optioned units.

I'm basing my non Sas BB with rear locker on my experience. I've had many 4x4's, Fords and Jeeps, only a few with lockers. I generally run out of vehicle ability about the time I run out of nerve. My non locked Bronco II's performed as well or better than my lockable Rubicon. 32's are as big a tire as I've run. So I'm confident in my choice.

It would be nice to see though...a guy needs a certain amount of affirmation.

 

[TeocaliMG]

Pretty sure this was demoed back in the camo days and confirmed via spy shots. There were almost certainly rigs running the Rubicon and Moab last year or earlier that were neither Squatch or BL, no ride along reviews with that though obviously.

If this is about being actually worried about capability, ask yourself if you think the 4runner is a remotely capable vehicle. If yes, then you really have no reason to worry about the BD.

But yea, I think its fair to want more BD legitimate PR in general.

 

[ColbyFromBama]

It would be nice to see non Squatched Broncos performing, but that would be counter to up-selling philosophy. Ford wants to sell up optioned units.

I'm basing my non Sas BB with rear locker on my experience. I've had many 4x4's, Fords and Jeeps, only a few with lockers. I generally run out of vehicle ability about the time I run out of nerve. My non locked Bronco II's performed as well or better than my lockable Rubicon. 32's are as big a tire as I've run. So I'm confident in my choice.

It would be nice to see though...a guy needs a certain amount of affirmation.

Great take! I agree.

 

[Bronco21fan]

I hope you’re right! My biggest concern is that we don’t know how the standard H.O.S.S. suspension performs off-road. That combined with the smaller front axle...

The standered suspension is just standered suspension I beleave there is no hoss system unless you get badlands or sasquatch

 

[ColbyFromBama]

The BD doesn't have a front locking diff. And it doesn't have a swaybar disconnect. BFD. You make it sound like the BD will get stuck in 2" of wet gravel.

Give it a rest man, the BD will go almost any place your balls are willing to drive it.

As stated previously, you can’t make this claim without any proof or demonstration from Ford. You’re telling me the standard BD will do intense rock crawling, or deep mud? No way. I want to know where the limits are. And it’s not unreasonable to wish Ford would provide demonstration of their claims. It’s that simple.

 

[ColbyFromBama]

If you're getting a BD without Sasquatch you aren't spending $50k, lol. The differences of capabilities between models will be miniscule at best for 99% of us.

You might not be great at Math, but luckily Ford does all the calculations for you.

 

[basundy]

When is your reservation timestamp? If I get mine before you (probably won’t), I’ll share pics as well. Hoping at least SOMEONE gets a standard BD early and shares it with us!

I'm in the standard BD club. I'm an early morning 7/14 res and # 12 at my dealership. I'm hoping I see mine in June.

 

[CCBronco]

As stated previously, you can’t make this claim without any proof or demonstration from Ford. You’re telling me the standard BD will do intense rock crawling, or deep mud? No way. I want to know where the limits are. And it’s not unreasonable to wish Ford would provide demonstration of their claims. It’s that simple.

The limitations are with you. Folks chimed in offering advice, you’re just repeating yourself.

 

[Laminar]

Black Diamond is for posers

Well I'm surprised this comment didn't get more attention. I don't think the model on 32s and steel wheels is the one for "posers." You can throw a set of big tires and ugly black wheels that stick too far out on a Base just as easily as you can a BD. And considering how many comments I keep seeing about how the 35s "look really good, even if I don't need them" on the Squatch build, posers aren't limiting themselves to the small tire models.

If you're getting a BD without Sasquatch you aren't spending $50k, lol. The differences of capabilities between models will be miniscule at best for 99% of us.

4 door, 2.7, heated seats, 4A, modular top gets it over $50k. Equivalent Badlands is $53k+.

 

[ColbyFromBama]

The limitations are with you. Folks chimed in offering advice, you’re just repeating yourself.

Not sure what career field you’re in, but in mine, opinionated “advice” isn’t considered factual. This isn’t a “tell me what you THINK the Bronco will do” thread. This is a thread to discuss the lack of standard Black Diamond demonstrations from Ford. It’s really that simple.

 

[Compta38]

You might not be great at Math, but luckily Ford does all the calculations for you.

sure, I bet you ran down the list and added EVERY, SINGLE available option you could too...I'm spending $48K on A Sas BD with V6 and mid. If you're adding random bullshit to artificially get the price high then cool I guess but nobody with half a working brain is spending $50K on a non Sas BD when a WT or Badlands could have been bought about the same.

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