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I have only been able to find downpipes for the 2.7. Does anyone know of a company that sells or is developing one?
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I know of at least one company that has been developing one for over a year and still nothing. Even with one it wonā€™t do much without a larger turbo and canā€™t get that since no one has came out with a custom tune for the 2.3l either yet.
 

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Its gonna be 2024 very soon, told once we got ā€˜24 ECUā€™s custom tunes can begin
 

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I know of at least one company that has been developing one for over a year and still nothing. Even with one it wonā€™t do much without a larger turbo and canā€™t get that since no one has came out with a custom tune for the 2.3l either yet.
Why? I have been giving thought to upgrading to a smaller turbo that kicks in with less lag at the expense of top end speed. I am new to this so please explain.
 

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Why? I have been giving thought to upgrading to a smaller turbo that kicks in with less lag at the expense of top end speed. I am new to this so please explain.
The 2.3L is running a relatively small Twinscroll turbo already. The system breathes well enough from the get-go, which is why you hear tuners say that there is not much benefit to a custom DP.

If you want to have better turbo response time, you best be running the FP Tune, running 91+ Octane and in Sport Mode to start. The boost and throttle curves are much more refined and brought on earlier in the rev range.

A smaller turbo will technically spool quicker, sure, but at the expense of top end and the overall flow rate. A smaller snail may actually require a custom tune to take hold of any benefit, similar to slapping on larger turbo; the electronics will not be optimized for the new parts put in.

In addition to the FP Tune, 91+ Octane, youā€™d be better off upgrading the charge pipe, FMIC, and going to a step colder plug to allow the timing to advance as much as possible - youā€™ll feel way more gains from these mods than anything else.

If this all sounds like jargon to you, Iā€™d suggest reading up on Single Scroll vs Twin Scroll vs Twin Turbo vs Sequential Twin Turbo systems. There are many ways to skin a cat, each one has its benefits itā€™s drawbacks.
 
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Why? I have been giving thought to upgrading to a smaller turbo that kicks in with less lag at the expense of top end speed. I am new to this so please explain.
I think a tune would better suit your needs rather than investing in a new turbo, downpipe, and, well, you would need a custom tune anyhow to get it to run correctly. Or just run in Sport mode.

I haven't looked, but yeah, you would think a 2.3 down pipe would already be on the market. You could always source the turbo exhaust flange and have one custom made.
 

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I think a tune would better suit your needs rather than investing in a new turbo, downpipe, and, well, you would need a custom tune anyhow to get it to run correctly. Or just run in Sport mode.

I haven't looked, but yeah, you would think a 2.3 down pipe would already be on the market. You could always source the turbo exhaust flange and have one custom made.
Right now it has a JB4 tuner using map 3, a Ford Performance Tune, a Mishimoto high mount intercooler with pipes, air intake, and exhaust. My winter project is putting a water/methanol injection on it and it already has a performance clutch. I'm not looking to turn it into a race car but my goal is to build it to have the best performance it is capable of before going into things like engine mods. I also only run only 93 octane.

I don't see myself realistically downsizing the turbo but I'm foaming at the mouth for downpipes.
 
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I think a tune would better suit your needs rather than investing in a new turbo, downpipe, and, well, you would need a custom tune anyhow to get it to run correctly. Or just run in Sport mode.

I haven't looked, but yeah, you would think a 2.3 down pipe would already be on the market. You could always source the turbo exhaust flange and have one custom made.
How big a project would having someone fabricate one be?
 
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Right now it has a JB4 tuner and Ford Performance Tune, a Mishimoto high mount intercooler with pipes, air intake, and exhaust. My winter project is putting a water/methanol injection on it and it already has a performance clutch. I'm not looking to turn it into a race car but my goal is to build it to have the best performance it is capable of before going into things like engine mods.
A while back I got in touch with the Canadian tuner and he said there was nothing additional that he could do with a 2.3 but there was a lot of room for custom tuning a 2.7
 

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How big a project would having someone fabricate one be?
It shouldn't be that big of a deal to fabricate one.
I know of at least one company that has been developing one for over a year and still nothing. Even with one it wonā€™t do much without a larger turbo and canā€™t get that since no one has came out with a custom tune for the 2.3l either yet.
If this 2.3 uses the same exhaust port design as the 2.3 mustangs i believe the turbo already exist i believe precision/ turbonetics makes it.
 

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It shouldn't be that big of a deal to fabricate one.

If this 2.3 uses the same exhaust port design as the 2.3 mustangs i believe the turbo already exist i believe precision/ turbonetics makes it.
Itā€™s the same turbo thatā€™s in the ranger/explorer. I have a spare turbo waiting to be sent off to https://crpengineering.com/product/3-023-321/ for their stage 3 upgrade. Fabricating a downpipe isnā€™t hard but making one pass emission tests is. I could care less about the emissions, take the cat out completely and give me spots for the sensors.
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