External camera auto input to display via hero switch (via ForScan)?

[GaryB2220]

Most IR lights are near-infrared like 800-1100nm wavelength, Thermal imaging is done in the mid-wavelength and long-wavelength of the infrared spectrum like 3000nm-15000nm. You might as well be using normal fog lights(normal visual spectrum is about 380-740nm) for all a thermal imaging camera is going to care.

These are the IR lights i purchased for this application. The US millitary uses millspec versions of these lights (in a completely different product) in order to drive high speeds in darkness (no headlights turned on) and still be able to see the surroundings very easily on the display. I am just trying to recreate this on a much smaller budget.

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[BlueBoy]

the 4dtech module? It works. I was their test mule. I have the text entry in motion module and and 360 camera and any speed module.

I am interested in more info on this as well

 

[j_anderson]

Could you shed a little light on the unit for us or if there was another thread on it, would you please share a link? Any pros/cons with the device?

Here is a link to the product pages

I installed both of these units.

Pros:

• Enter/edit any motion locked menu/nav address, etc when in motion
• Turn on your front and side cameras at any time in any drive mode
• Plug and play with no further programming needed.

Cons:

• Dash disassembly required to get to the connector behind the screen. The connector is finicky too. So, be sure its seated properly before reassembly (ask me how I know).
• The bracket holding the 360 module was a PITA to remove the back bolt
• Rear camera toggle isn't supported
• Cost

Here is a little video I shot after install

 

[JBowles]

These are the IR lights i purchased for this application. The US millitary uses millspec versions of these lights (in a completely different product) in order to drive high speeds in darkness (no headlights turned on) and still be able to see the surroundings very easily on the display. I am just trying to recreate this on a much smaller budget.

those are great for nightvison goggles and what not, and probably will even increase your visibility with the normal front camera as most digital cameras are fairly sensitive to NIR. But they wont do anything to help "illuminate" the surroundings for a thermal imaging camera. They are two differnt types of "infrared".

 

[BlueBoy]

Found it, www.4dtech.com

 

[j_anderson]

Found it, www.4dtech.com

yep. I posted info a few posts up too

 

[Deleted member 32220]

I’m pretty certain the camera the op is looking at is only capable of seeing near infrared, same as a security camera. He’s not talking FLIR here they do sell those in compact form factor.

 

[GaryB2220]

I’m pretty certain the camera the op is looking at is only capable of seeing near infrared, same as a security camera. He not talking FLIR here they do sell those in compact form factor.

the manufacturer (of the product im looking at) claims the camera has a 3000 foot range.
https://speedir.com/nightowlplus-thermal-driving-car-camera

 

[Deleted member 32220]

Low level FLIR needs high frame rates to be of much use at speed. Our gov’t does not allow anything beyond 9hz “fps” to be exported out of the country. So I wouldn’t expect to see that technology coming back into the country as a low cost Chinese made product. Nothing wrong with high end Chinese products. I’m just “sayin”

 

[BigMeatsBronco]

the manufacturer (of the product im looking at) claims the camera has a 3000 foot range.
https://speedir.com/nightowlplus-thermal-driving-car-camera

Hell yes I need that....steath mode.

 

[JBowles]

Yeah every thing I've seen on the mfgs websites indicate is a thermal camera like FLIR, the images look like thermals, everything would just look like a normal black and white image more or less if it was NIR

the manufacturer (of the product im looking at) claims the camera has a 3000 foot range.
https://speedir.com/nightowlplus-thermal-driving-car-camera

 

[Deleted member 32220]

What package is on your bronco?

 

[XirallicBolts]

I mentioned elsewhere, but if you do not have 360 Camera it's moderately easy to use an Arduino to trigger camera display (plus a relay to select which camera to display).

With 360 Camera it becomes trickier and you'd probably need the 4DTech module.

The tldr is the 360 module (IPMB) handles all the video inputs. When you press Camera, it tells the APIM to show the video input. Otherwise, it sends a "no camera" message every second.

If you don't have 360, you don't have an IPMB and your rear camera connects directly to the APIM.

You can send a fake IPMB "request camera view" to bring the video feed up, but if you have an IPMB it'll cancel your message out.

The 4dtech does a much more refined job of parsing and modifying the existing messages, while the DIY arduino method just sends messages -- no modifying.

I tried the Arduino method in my Flex (Sync 3) with success. Only thing I haven't sussed out is why the seats / steering wheel stop heating when I do it.



Advantage: cost, rear camera selectable
Disadvantage: it's a homebrew DIY setup, base/mid package only, gotta assemble it and learn Arduino

 

[Deleted member 32220]

^ what he said, plus I think it can be done without 360 “front cam” by enabling front cam in forscan, using 4Dtech box, and figuring out video input. You may need the front cam/parking switch as well, but I got a hunch you can enable the front cam as a soft key on screen as well.

 

[GaryB2220]

What package is on your bronco?

High package so 12" and 360 camera

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