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Went on a bit of a tangent with too much backstory and detail. So for those with tiktoc brain, here’s a summary:
TLDR:
Automakers’ subscription-based tunes are a middle finger to customers. I’m not paying Ford to give me the performance they purposely left out. @GooseTuned delivered a custom and safe tune with smoother shifts, more power, and off-road fixes like disabling brake-over-throttle and tackling the terrifying 3-2 downshift in 4L. Goosetuned’s attention to detail makes them worth every penny.
For the full review:
Something I’ve found interesting is the huge resistance and utter contempt expressed at companies that decided to trial out subscription-based options. “Oh? You’d like to turn on the heated seats in your six figure car? While this is an option that has been included for decades due to the competitive nature of the market, and all the money on development has long been spent, but we will now charge you $15 month. This is a benefit! It will be cheaper and you only pay for the feature when you want them! Totally not about revenue. Also-fuck you.”
Absolutely I agree that the disdain in this situation was earned, so I found it peculiar when Ford did the same thing with the performance tune and their customers celebrated it. They have the ability to give their customers more performance, better shifting, and change a few parameters while maintaining a warranty. But…it’s gonna cost you a grand or more. They’re admitting to not giving you the best product they can possibly make in the name of making another grand. Also-fuck you.
All things considered, I’m not buying their tune out of spite. I would much rather wait for a tuner I have experience with from the Raptor world to develop something for the platform. @GooseTuned has a long established positive reputation in the F-150 market for producing safe and powerful tunes. He isn’t going to sacrifice your engine for the sake of peak numbers and bragging rights. My first rappy was tuned by whipple, the second by MPT, and the third by Goosetuned. Of the three, Goose felt the best and was very responsive when something was needed. To get the factory tune from Whipple was…not easy…but it only took an email and I had it in less than a day with Goosetuned. And that truck on E85 with 1050cc injectors? Hoo lawdy would it move. Probably 40k miles on E85 and that truck was fine until the dealer “lost” the tuner after I traded it in.
Fast forward to the Bronco. When the news broke that the 2.7L platform was finally cracked, I immediately ordered. Within a couple days a new ECU and a computer showed up. I connected it to the internet and Goose took over. He used the technician FRDS to do the PATS(?) programming for the ECU, and while he was in there he even took the time to program the keypad for us! Swell guy right there! Then the bronco sat a couple more weeks while we finished working on it. In the meantime, HP tuners figured out how to crack the ECU without a swap, so we ordered things up for the second bronco as well.
Now, when you go with Goosetuned, you aren’t buying a canned tune. If you want you can go as far as remote dyno tuning, but he asks you to log pulls from X to X rpm in X gear so he can check things out. The other guys - “You have this engine? Cool. Heerrrrrrrrreeeee ya go!” While every engine is the same, not every engine is the same. I would agree that some skepticism is warranted given the circumstances. I mean…come on. He looks at two pulls, modifies the tune, then repeats twice more on every single vehicle? Pfff. You’re just getting a canned tune and the feeling of custom service. But, after our third retune, the email from him wasn’t “that looks great! I’m happy!” Instead, it was inquiries into the fuel. What octane and where it was from. Didn’t like what he was seeing on either bronco. Asked us to run them low then fuel up at a Shell. By golly. I guess he is paying attention to each individual pull. Pretty wild.
We finished up the performance side of things. Absolutely beautiful shifts, no ASS, and of course-more power. Then I started asking him about the offroad tuning. More specifically, disabling brake over throttle where the computer sees that the brakes and throttle are being used at the same time. It gives priority to the brakes and cuts power, then gives you a notification in the screen tell you the bronco is big mad. Turns out, that’s already disabled for boosted launches. Next was the absolutely terrifying 3-2 downshift in 4L. For those that have experienced it, you know what I’m talking about. If you haven’t, join me for a journey to Imagination Land where I’ll try to paint you a movie.
Picture yourself in Moab, enjoying some beautiful red rocks and moderate wheeling. It’s wifey’s first official time doing all the driving herself, and not just a random obstacle here and there. Your beautiful wife that has a fear of heights as well as a fear of driving after being t-boned by a drunk driver and put into a wheelchair for a year. But somehow, offroading helps her! She’s driving along in 4L D when a hill that needs descended comes up on the trail. And of course, you’re next to a cliff. She’s calmly slowing down, a big smile on her face, and suddenly she fucking goes crazy and floors the throttle! In your head-“Jesus Christ what the heck?!?! Fahkin hell what just happened?!?! Goddamn girl I’m glad you’re facing your fears but maybe not do it right next to a cliff while turning! Christ!” Outward you just smiles and makes certain she’s good, and she responds happily that she is. About the time your heartrate drops below 200 bpm, SHE DOES IT AGAIN! “Hnnnnnnnnnmngggghhhhhhggg!!!! Okay. Be cool. Don’t say anything. But holy shit. Is she messing with me? Cause goddamn it’s working.” Outward you-“hey let’s stop real quick-I want to do a bolt check.” While opening her door you sneakily inspect the floormat to make certain we aren’t replicating a Toyota recall. She’s doing this when she should be slowing down, after all. Floor mat is good. “Bolts” are good. She’s happy. Your nerves are wrecked. Guess we’ll continue. Now you’re using your dark glasses as concealment for watching her feet without her noticing. Both times it happened was going downhill and slowing down, so it can at least be expected to happen then. Your eyes hurt from looking sideways so hard, testing the limits of what our bodies are capable of. The next time it happens you’re tested in what is likely similar to keeping your eyes open while sneezing. But you persevere, and see that her foot is hard on the brake and nowhere near the throttle. “Hey so…when the bronco lurches forward…that’s not you?” “No!!! And it’s terrifying! I didn’t say anything though because I thought that’s just what happened!” You both have a good laugh and get on the internet to see if anyone else has experienced this, and of course they have. From their feedback you start using manual mode to deal with it.
Back to reality-basically it seems like Ford reallllly screwed the pooch on the downshift rev-match in 4L. The transmission is still locked up and for some reason they decided it necessary to rev to 4700 rpm or something crazy for 3-2. It is an acceleration of 3-4 mph which doesn’t seem like much until you’re trying to turn alongside a cliff and wanting to slow down. I mentioned this to Goosetuned and he said if he can get some logs he’ll see what he can do. I was able to find a spot where I can replicate the issue at will, and we went through EIGHT tune revisions trying to figure it out. In addition to the performance tuning we had already done that took more time due to the bad gas. (I did get a refund on that gasoline too. Little bonus)
We haven’t been able to get rid of the big rev match, but he did solve the lockup timing. It no longer drives through the brakes. If you are on the brakes like a normal human, you are stopping. (Look up the issue you’ll see reports of people standing on the brakes as their engine drives right through them)
In the process of Goosetuned doing his thing, I break out the weaponized autism and start doing my own research. What else is possible? I go through the HP tuners class to unlock the rest of the tuning adjustments and start looking through each tab. From there it’s looking at each variable, then going to the internet to find out what they are as I have no clue. When something of interest comes up-email Goosetuned. Of note was the antihop setting. It doesn’t do shit to prevent hopping, but it does limit your torque in 1-2 gear. We increase the number and eventually turn it off. Ya know that annoying lag at the bottom of the rpm range? Even in 4L? You ask for full throttle from a stop and the bronco lackadaisically inches forward in the most unimpressive display of enthusiasm one has ever seen? That’s not turbo lag. Ho no. This engine does in fact have big hairy balls and can absolutely impress you if given the opportunity. Another benefit-the engine doesn’t kill itself when whatever variables are met where Ford decided it will start bouncing. On the Rubicon we were wheeling with another portal bronco, and on the exact same obstacles with precarious conditions, his would turn itself off and ours wouldn’t. And we had two footed driving. And could do proper bumps from a stop. He was quite jealous
Also noticed a setting for the engine idle timer. On the F-150 we could disable it with Forscan-no dice on Bronco. But, Goosetuned adjusted it for us and then we were able to disable it with Forscan. No more worries about whether we remembered to manually turn off the limit when the dogs are in the car.
In summary, I’d happily recommend Goosetuned for your tuning needs. Can absolutely make a very different rig when the limitations are removed.
If you’re curious about how much more power it has, Fukifiknow. It’s more. Noticeably so, even with 40” tires. If you’re getting caught up in “but how many hrsprs does the dyno sayyyyyyyyy
?!?! That’s more importanter to me” then I don’t know what to tell you. Actually! I do! And it starts with an F…
Attached is two footed driving in action.
TLDR:
Automakers’ subscription-based tunes are a middle finger to customers. I’m not paying Ford to give me the performance they purposely left out. @GooseTuned delivered a custom and safe tune with smoother shifts, more power, and off-road fixes like disabling brake-over-throttle and tackling the terrifying 3-2 downshift in 4L. Goosetuned’s attention to detail makes them worth every penny.
For the full review:
Something I’ve found interesting is the huge resistance and utter contempt expressed at companies that decided to trial out subscription-based options. “Oh? You’d like to turn on the heated seats in your six figure car? While this is an option that has been included for decades due to the competitive nature of the market, and all the money on development has long been spent, but we will now charge you $15 month. This is a benefit! It will be cheaper and you only pay for the feature when you want them! Totally not about revenue. Also-fuck you.”
Absolutely I agree that the disdain in this situation was earned, so I found it peculiar when Ford did the same thing with the performance tune and their customers celebrated it. They have the ability to give their customers more performance, better shifting, and change a few parameters while maintaining a warranty. But…it’s gonna cost you a grand or more. They’re admitting to not giving you the best product they can possibly make in the name of making another grand. Also-fuck you.
All things considered, I’m not buying their tune out of spite. I would much rather wait for a tuner I have experience with from the Raptor world to develop something for the platform. @GooseTuned has a long established positive reputation in the F-150 market for producing safe and powerful tunes. He isn’t going to sacrifice your engine for the sake of peak numbers and bragging rights. My first rappy was tuned by whipple, the second by MPT, and the third by Goosetuned. Of the three, Goose felt the best and was very responsive when something was needed. To get the factory tune from Whipple was…not easy…but it only took an email and I had it in less than a day with Goosetuned. And that truck on E85 with 1050cc injectors? Hoo lawdy would it move. Probably 40k miles on E85 and that truck was fine until the dealer “lost” the tuner after I traded it in.
Fast forward to the Bronco. When the news broke that the 2.7L platform was finally cracked, I immediately ordered. Within a couple days a new ECU and a computer showed up. I connected it to the internet and Goose took over. He used the technician FRDS to do the PATS(?) programming for the ECU, and while he was in there he even took the time to program the keypad for us! Swell guy right there! Then the bronco sat a couple more weeks while we finished working on it. In the meantime, HP tuners figured out how to crack the ECU without a swap, so we ordered things up for the second bronco as well.
Now, when you go with Goosetuned, you aren’t buying a canned tune. If you want you can go as far as remote dyno tuning, but he asks you to log pulls from X to X rpm in X gear so he can check things out. The other guys - “You have this engine? Cool. Heerrrrrrrrreeeee ya go!” While every engine is the same, not every engine is the same. I would agree that some skepticism is warranted given the circumstances. I mean…come on. He looks at two pulls, modifies the tune, then repeats twice more on every single vehicle? Pfff. You’re just getting a canned tune and the feeling of custom service. But, after our third retune, the email from him wasn’t “that looks great! I’m happy!” Instead, it was inquiries into the fuel. What octane and where it was from. Didn’t like what he was seeing on either bronco. Asked us to run them low then fuel up at a Shell. By golly. I guess he is paying attention to each individual pull. Pretty wild.
We finished up the performance side of things. Absolutely beautiful shifts, no ASS, and of course-more power. Then I started asking him about the offroad tuning. More specifically, disabling brake over throttle where the computer sees that the brakes and throttle are being used at the same time. It gives priority to the brakes and cuts power, then gives you a notification in the screen tell you the bronco is big mad. Turns out, that’s already disabled for boosted launches. Next was the absolutely terrifying 3-2 downshift in 4L. For those that have experienced it, you know what I’m talking about. If you haven’t, join me for a journey to Imagination Land where I’ll try to paint you a movie.
Picture yourself in Moab, enjoying some beautiful red rocks and moderate wheeling. It’s wifey’s first official time doing all the driving herself, and not just a random obstacle here and there. Your beautiful wife that has a fear of heights as well as a fear of driving after being t-boned by a drunk driver and put into a wheelchair for a year. But somehow, offroading helps her! She’s driving along in 4L D when a hill that needs descended comes up on the trail. And of course, you’re next to a cliff. She’s calmly slowing down, a big smile on her face, and suddenly she fucking goes crazy and floors the throttle! In your head-“Jesus Christ what the heck?!?! Fahkin hell what just happened?!?! Goddamn girl I’m glad you’re facing your fears but maybe not do it right next to a cliff while turning! Christ!” Outward you just smiles and makes certain she’s good, and she responds happily that she is. About the time your heartrate drops below 200 bpm, SHE DOES IT AGAIN! “Hnnnnnnnnnmngggghhhhhhggg!!!! Okay. Be cool. Don’t say anything. But holy shit. Is she messing with me? Cause goddamn it’s working.” Outward you-“hey let’s stop real quick-I want to do a bolt check.” While opening her door you sneakily inspect the floormat to make certain we aren’t replicating a Toyota recall. She’s doing this when she should be slowing down, after all. Floor mat is good. “Bolts” are good. She’s happy. Your nerves are wrecked. Guess we’ll continue. Now you’re using your dark glasses as concealment for watching her feet without her noticing. Both times it happened was going downhill and slowing down, so it can at least be expected to happen then. Your eyes hurt from looking sideways so hard, testing the limits of what our bodies are capable of. The next time it happens you’re tested in what is likely similar to keeping your eyes open while sneezing. But you persevere, and see that her foot is hard on the brake and nowhere near the throttle. “Hey so…when the bronco lurches forward…that’s not you?” “No!!! And it’s terrifying! I didn’t say anything though because I thought that’s just what happened!” You both have a good laugh and get on the internet to see if anyone else has experienced this, and of course they have. From their feedback you start using manual mode to deal with it.
Back to reality-basically it seems like Ford reallllly screwed the pooch on the downshift rev-match in 4L. The transmission is still locked up and for some reason they decided it necessary to rev to 4700 rpm or something crazy for 3-2. It is an acceleration of 3-4 mph which doesn’t seem like much until you’re trying to turn alongside a cliff and wanting to slow down. I mentioned this to Goosetuned and he said if he can get some logs he’ll see what he can do. I was able to find a spot where I can replicate the issue at will, and we went through EIGHT tune revisions trying to figure it out. In addition to the performance tuning we had already done that took more time due to the bad gas. (I did get a refund on that gasoline too. Little bonus)
We haven’t been able to get rid of the big rev match, but he did solve the lockup timing. It no longer drives through the brakes. If you are on the brakes like a normal human, you are stopping. (Look up the issue you’ll see reports of people standing on the brakes as their engine drives right through them)
In the process of Goosetuned doing his thing, I break out the weaponized autism and start doing my own research. What else is possible? I go through the HP tuners class to unlock the rest of the tuning adjustments and start looking through each tab. From there it’s looking at each variable, then going to the internet to find out what they are as I have no clue. When something of interest comes up-email Goosetuned. Of note was the antihop setting. It doesn’t do shit to prevent hopping, but it does limit your torque in 1-2 gear. We increase the number and eventually turn it off. Ya know that annoying lag at the bottom of the rpm range? Even in 4L? You ask for full throttle from a stop and the bronco lackadaisically inches forward in the most unimpressive display of enthusiasm one has ever seen? That’s not turbo lag. Ho no. This engine does in fact have big hairy balls and can absolutely impress you if given the opportunity. Another benefit-the engine doesn’t kill itself when whatever variables are met where Ford decided it will start bouncing. On the Rubicon we were wheeling with another portal bronco, and on the exact same obstacles with precarious conditions, his would turn itself off and ours wouldn’t. And we had two footed driving. And could do proper bumps from a stop. He was quite jealous
Also noticed a setting for the engine idle timer. On the F-150 we could disable it with Forscan-no dice on Bronco. But, Goosetuned adjusted it for us and then we were able to disable it with Forscan. No more worries about whether we remembered to manually turn off the limit when the dogs are in the car.
In summary, I’d happily recommend Goosetuned for your tuning needs. Can absolutely make a very different rig when the limitations are removed.
If you’re curious about how much more power it has, Fukifiknow. It’s more. Noticeably so, even with 40” tires. If you’re getting caught up in “but how many hrsprs does the dyno sayyyyyyyyy
?!?! That’s more importanter to me” then I don’t know what to tell you. Actually! I do! And it starts with an F…Attached is two footed driving in action.
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