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Ok, so let me start over. I was just trying to verify the 4wp will have adjustable coilovers for the rear instead of fixed or even worse spacers. I've yet to see any specifics on anything, and the title of the thread is what is needed, and the rear needs attention too. It's not all CV angles and backspacing.

How about everything else for the rear. What's needed, as the thread title says? How high can we lift before the track bar is an issue? What will be needed? New brackets or longer bar? Rear control arms. Any issues there? Pinion angles? Especially the shorter 2 door.

All I'm asking is to address the rear for what the title of the thread is about. What is needed in the rear to lift 2-3 inches for 37+.

And while we are at it, when 4wp says 1-3 inch lift, are they talking about 1-3 inches over the base, the Badlands, or the Squatch suspension?
He mentions the eventual availability of a rear trackbar in the video, and I’ve always been working off the assumption the “1-3 inch” was on top of the base suspension… not the factory available upgraded suspension found on BL and SAS.

But that’s just an assumption on my part. You raise all good questions.
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It will fit!
Well, geometry says they won't. And the guy who put together the Overland build says they won't. And the Ford employees who have driven the Overland build says they won't. And, more pertinent to the thread, 4WP says they won't. If you're not going to take our advice, then take your own:
Were talking about 4WP they studied the bronco to make the lifts. Im sure I’d believe them.
 

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Well, geometry says they won't. And the guy who put together the Overland build says they won't. And the Ford employees who have driven the Overland build says they won't. And, more pertinent to the thread, 4WP says they won't. If you're not going to take our advice, then take your own:
A lot of things have been said in here. Lol... And inna few months we will indeed know what is what, from lifts to wheels, offsets and tire sizes. Instead of opinions and "facts"... Especially considering said opinion and "fact" are thrown out there when there's an obvious bias to sell certain parts and set ups. Take everything on here with a grain of salt until you see visual proof and or try it your damn self.

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A lot of things have been said in here. Lol... And inna few months we will indeed know what is what, from lifts to wheels, offsets and tire sizes. Instead of opinions and "facts"... Especially considering said opinion and "fact" are thrown out there when there's an obvious bias to sell certain parts and set ups. Take everything on here with a grain of salt until you see visual proof and or try it your damn self.

Ford Bronco How to Fit 35” or 37” Tires on 2021 Bronco? 4WP Explains it-works-every-tme-60percent
I intentionally used the various examples from different people with different agendas all agreeing to the same thing. The one company involved in that build that disagrees with that is the wheel manufacturer :ROFLMAO:. In any case, most likely everyone here has seen that set up with our own eyeballs and... it doesn't work.

I worked on Anchorman and was there when that line was ad-libbed :D
 

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Well, geometry says they won't. And the guy who put together the Overland build says they won't. And the Ford employees who have driven the Overland build says they won't. And, more pertinent to the thread, 4WP says they won't. If you're not going to take our advice, then take your own:
Man I don’t know why your trolling me about this, but the Sasquatch package has 35’s and it’s only 10mm different between the 2, also the Sasquatch wheels are in further! Which is less clearance again! The fifteen52 wheels is -0 and they will fit and will fit even better when I remove the crash bars! Your not understanding that video either!
 

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I intentionally used the various examples from different people with different agendas all agreeing to the same thing. The one company involved in that build that disagrees with that is the wheel manufacturer :ROFLMAO:. In any case, most likely everyone here has seen that set up with our own eyeballs and... it doesn't work.

I worked on Anchorman and was there when that line was ad-libbed :D
That's all well and good. RTR wheels are zero offset. Vaughan Gittin Jr had zero with 35's on the red one in those vids .. I have Zero offset wheels with 33's on them... I'm sure they will fit fine. As for lifts, I'm no specialist myself... But my buddy is. I asked him a bunch of questions with screenshots from this thread. We both have different conclusions then some in this thread with vested interests. So again... We will see in a couple months what is actually possible, and what isn't. And not just because some want to sell crazy priced Chinese suspension systems! But if that's your jam you do you. I don't care what anyone else does with they're bronco.... And I wish them alll the best.
 

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Man I don’t know why your trolling me about this, but the Sasquatch package has 35’s and it’s only 10mm different between the 2, also the Sasquatch wheels are in further! Which is less clearance again! The fifteen52 wheels is -0 and they will fit and will fit even better when I remove the crash bars!
I'm not trolling you I'm trying to help
 

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That's all well and good. RTR wheels are zero offset. Vaughan Gittin Jr had zero with 35's on the red one in those vids .. I have Zero offset wheels with 33's on them... I'm sure they will fit fine. As for lifts, I'm no specialist myself... But my buddy is. I asked him a bunch of questions with screenshots from this thread. We both have different conclusions then some in this thread with vested interests. So again... We will see in a couple months what is actually possible, and what isn't. And not just because some want to sell crazy priced Chinese suspension systems! But if that's your jam you do you. I don't care what anyone else does with they're bronco.... And I wish them alll the best.
Yes they will fit even with 35’s, it’s been seen, and the 4WP video proves it! The badlands has more then a level lift, the shocks has a lift from the factory! A good source told me that they fit unofficially! It’s just Ford promoting there Sasquatch package!
 

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Man I don’t know why your trolling me about this, but the Sasquatch package has 35’s and it’s only 10mm different between the 2, also the Sasquatch wheels are in further! Which is less clearance again! The fifteen52 wheels is -0 and they will fit and will fit even better when I remove the crash bars! Your not understanding that video either!
He’s not trolling. You’re missing some important steering geometry concerns.

The farther you push those wheels away from the steering pivot point, the wider the overall arc of the wheel is going to be.

Imagine standing in a closet holding a frying pan against your chest like a steering wheel. Now pivot around on your heels facing left to right. That’s 55mm offset.

No bend your elbows out 90* and hold the frying pan about 1’ from your chest. Repeat the pivot maneuver. Have you hit anything? Knock a broom over? That’s 30mm offset.

Now extend your arms fully, and hold the pot out as far out in front of you as you can. Now pivot left to right. Knock anything off the shelf? Put a hole in the the wall with your fist? Hurt yourself? That’s 0 offset.

Now imagine that broom closet is the Bronco wheel well, and the frying pan is the tire. This is the concern with pushing wheels further out. Yes they are going further away from the suspension components, but that could actually be putting them closer to body components.

Ryan from 4WP says in the video 0 offset interferes. How and where and how badly, we don’t know… but an expert with all the components on hand and who has actually tried it is raising a flag. That’s worth something and we should pay attention.
 

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That's all well and good. RTR wheels are zero offset. Vaughan Gittin Jr had zero with 35's on the red one in those vids .. I have Zero offset wheels with 33's on them... I'm sure they will fit fine. As for lifts, I'm no specialist myself... But my buddy is. I asked him a bunch of questions with screenshots from this thread. We both have different conclusions then some in this thread with vested interests. So again... We will see in a couple months what is actually possible, and what isn't. And not just because some want to sell crazy priced Chinese suspension systems! But if that's your jam you do you. I don't care what anyone else does with they're bronco.... And I wish them alll the best.
Those are +30 RTR wheels on the red one and on the RTR build
 

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He’s not trolling. You’re missing some important steering geometry concerns.

The farther you push those wheels away from the steering pivot point, the wider the overall arc of the wheel is going to be.

Imagine standing in a closet holding a frying pan against your chest like a steering wheel. Now pivot around on your heels facing left to right. That’s 55mm offset.

No bend your elbows out 90* and hold the frying pan about 1’ from your chest. Repeat the pivot maneuver. Have you hit anything? Knock a broom over? That’s 30mm offset.

Now extend your arms fully, and hold the pot out as far out in front of you as you can. Now pivot left to right. Knock anything off the shelf? Put a hole in the the wall with your fist? Hurt yourself? That’s 0 offset.

No imagine that broom closet is the Bronco wheel well, and the frying pan is the tire. Ryan from 4WP says in the video 0 offset interferes. How and where and how badly, we don’t know… but an expert with all the components is raising a flag.
Haha it’s to late at night for that! But I understand! When the bronco comes I’ll just remove the crash bars! That’s what I’ve been told!
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