You have to run 93+ to get rated fuel mileage. I have no issue getting 22mpg on highway and 17-18mpg in city running 93+ and I have the sasquatch badlands with 2.7L
Your situation sounds very similar to mine. I purchased a 22 Toyota 4Runner TRD off-road premium with kdss back in November when my Tacoma began to get a little long in the tooth and I realized I don’t really NEED a pickup. As an auto technician I’ve owned and worked on many Ford’s and Toyota’s and they both have have their own unique qualities.
Gonna have to wait if it ever comes down. I can’t believe the price of gas right now.
Thank you - that is helpful - and gives me some guidance on the roof - and quality of gas.
I'd had a Jeep Wrangler - 2-door - before ----- and it had a bundle of driving and reliability issues. I had purchased it used - and - I attribute a number of the issues to my lousy purchasing decision. I had been attracted to owning a 'Jeep' - and had NOT done enough research on the issues to watch out for. I should add - this was when you tended to rely on word-of-mouth and the annual edition of Consumer's Reports for information about used vehicles. Thanks for the comments.
Thanks for the comments. I appreciate the 'heads-up' on ACTUAL experience with gas mileage - which will likely be about what my 4-Runner gets. The 4-Runner has a lumbering 6-cylinder engine - and I'm hoping that the Wildtrak with the 2.7L - and 10-speed transmission will have more 'zip'.
Thank you, thank you, thank you - as you are in my exact position. I'm 'old school' - meaning that I've always wanted a dependable vehicle that will 'last'. Having said that - I'll be 75 in a few months - and pretty much any vehicle that I have - whether the Bronco or the 4-Runnder - will likely outlast me. I am NOT a hard core offroad addict - BUT - my wife and i have NEVER been afraid of taking whatever vehicle we are in - up an interesting looking logging road 0r unused side road when were visiting an area. From what you've said - I'm thinking that I will likely hold both vehicles for long enough to figure out which I want to stay with. In either case, the vehicle I keep will not be driven heavily for day-to-day stuff - but WILL likely be the one we take to the mountains or the beach. Again - I truly appreciate your comments.Your situation sounds very similar to mine. I purchased a 22 Toyota 4Runner TRD off-road premium with kdss back in November when my Tacoma began to get a little long in the tooth and I realized I don’t really NEED a pickup. As an auto technician I’ve owned and worked on many Ford’s and Toyota’s and they both have have their own unique qualities.
Ford likes to push the envelope and be on the cutting edge of innovation and performance, whereas Toyota is the opposite. Toyota takes the tried and true approach. The 4Runner is slow, outdated and in need of a refresh. It is also hands down the the most quality and reliable vehicle Toyota makes. My Tacoma was bulletproof and I have zero doubt the 4Runner will be the same.
The off-road premium 4Runner with kdss rides like a Camry on the street and articulates better than a trd pro thanks to the hydraulic sway bar “disconnect”. The interior is nothing to write home about, it feels like the inside of a Lexus from 10 years ago. But it’s quiet, doesn’t rattle and everything just works. The roll down rear window is still awesome.
I took delivery of my base Bronco Sasquatch after waiting almost 2 years. With the current market value of the Bronco, if you can get one at msrp there’s really no reason not to, if it’s not for you it will be an easy sell and you’ll probably walk away with a few grand in your pocket just for the trouble. Knowing this I brought home my Bronco and I have to say I was impressed the moment I drove away from the dealership. The Bronco makes the 4Runner feel like a station wagon. The Bronco moves like a bat outta hell and rides like you’re on a cloud. It’s pretty much impossible to drive the Bronco anywhere without someone asking about it. My 4Runner gets the occasional thumbs up from other yota guys but the Bronco has the sex appeal of an Italian exotic, it’s a major conversation starter if you’re into that.
Comparing the two really is apples to oranges. The 4Runner rides like it’s on rails on the highway, and is very capable off road but thanks to the enormous sway bars the kdss system uses it is bone jarring driving any faster than 12mph off the pavement. The Bronco is quick off the line, has the power to pass and is a beast off road. But the soft off road oriented suspension and 35” tires makes it sway and nose dive under hard braking or sharp turns. Coming to an emergency stop the other day on the freeway in the Bronco required much more user input / control than the 4Runner would have needed, I could only imagine what swerving to miss a deer at 70mph would be like.
The years I’ve spent working as a tech in both Ford and Toyota service departments have taught me that fun cars aren’t designed to last forever and cars that are designed to last forever aren’t that much fun. You have to choose which you prefer. I’m fortunate enough to choose both right now but you can guess which of the two I’ll still own past the expiration of the factory warranty.
If you read my entire opinion here’s a photo for your time.
That - is my dilemma. I will likely drive it off road - some - not hard core rock crawling --- but places where cars generally can't go - and trucks or SUVs definitely need clearance and 4-wheel drive. My wife has an all wheel drive Pilot - which tends to be our 'drive around town' driving any distance car. I, however, have the car that needs to give us the capacity to have more 'fun' - and to go places that we wouldn't trust her Pilot to go - safely. We've taken the 4-Runner - and - so far - it has managed deep ruts, fairly nasty logging roads, 1'-2' creek crossings (although getting across as quickly as possible) - but - I purchased the 4-Runner because i was absolutely pissed and frustrated with Ford and it's inability to even give me an idea as to when my vehicle might be built. So - I put myself in this situation. Having said that, though, the 4-Runner has been fun while we've owned it - and we've had Zero mechanical problems with it. I've always had some concerns with buying a newly-released vehicle; however, if there is any advantage in the delay between ordering and now - its that Ford had, hopefully, addressed and resolved the major issues that appeared after release of the 2021 Broncos. We'll see, however. Thanks for you comments.
I think that you have EXACTLY described my current position. I have, in fact, wanted a Bronco since Version One vehicles in the early-early 70's. Of course, I was also interested in the International Harvester Scout - which had a similar look to the early Broncos. I am, in fact, in the enviable position of being able to own both vehicles for a while - and - pretty much plan on doing that. Fortunately, that was my wife's suggestion - as she had not known how much I had coveted an 'old style' Bronco for as long as I have. (I had no desire to own an OJ Simpson version). Her comment was - 'It's your money - and you've wanted this car for almost 50 years. If you don't get it, you will regret it.' I think that's pretty good advice.
I run premium regardless…. Also it burns cleaner and it’s better for long term engine care/maintenance.
That's what I intend to do. I have one on order - but can decline to purchase it if I don't want the vehicle. Given demand - the dealership would probably be thrilled as they could then mark it up.
