Jeep is in trouble

[flatlander40]

No, I don’t think Jeep is in trouble, but the Bronco will hurt their sales for many reasons, but first and foremost is the fact that Bronco is a competitor with a removable roof.

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[*T2*]

Look, these words aren't derived from new-found fanboy syndrome, but rather what I feel is pure logic.

How many people use pure logic to dictate their lives. Jeep will be fine.

 

[gizmohd]

Have to agree... Competition is great for the customer.. Jeep has been relatively stagnant with few changes over the years... Having a real domestic competitor will be better for us in the long run. Looking forward to the series of one-upmanship's that will be coming from each manufacturer as we go along.

 

[Sighlense]

You can now add the Explorer Timberline to the mix. Things are getting interesting.

 

[Hoofnmouth]

2.7 ford vs 3.6 jeep with procharger

 

[LostInArizona]

2.7 ford vs 3.6 jeep with procharger

This proves nothing. Are you surprised a twin turbo has a more complicated and messy looking engine bay than a decade old v6 with a much simpler supercharger and useless plastic covers? I don't understand why everyone is so concerned that the engine bay is messy looking. It's functional, that's all it needs to be. Unless you're going to car shows and expecting to win awards I suppose but I would argue this is not the vehicle for that.

 

[TheColemans05]

This entire thread is ridiculous.

The entire fourm is becoming ridiculous.

 

[BoomerBarnes]

Jeep and bronco are in a neck and neck race for my next vehicle.

The only thing I am considering the jeep for is because they have a plug in hybrid available now. If Ford announces a plug in I won't even look in a jeeps direction.

 

[Hoofnmouth]

This proves nothing. Are you surprised a twin turbo has a more complicated and messy looking engine bay than a decade old v6 with a much simpler supercharger and useless plastic covers? I don't understand why everyone is so concerned that the engine bay is messy looking. It's functional, that's all it needs to be. Unless you're going to car shows and expecting to win awards I suppose but I would argue this is not the vehicle for that.

lol ease of maint,multiple fail points ,troubleshooting yup looks like its the black wire the rat chewed pick one.

 

[LostInArizona]

Ok Boomer...

This "boomer" shit is obnoxious. Please stop using it

lol ease of maint,multiple fail points ,troubleshooting yup looks like its the black wire the rat chewed pick one.

Again, twin turbo, direct injection, electronic timing control, etc. etc. There's a lot more going on with new engines, and this engine in particular than a 10 year old Chrysler V6. Granted I have no doubt it has a lot to do with new emissions regulations, and efficiency and all that. In any case, this just sounds like the typical gripes of literally every classic/pre 2000 car owner ever. "Give me a carbureted V8 any day over this new fangled mess." *spits into spittoon*

Doesnt look much more complicated than this 2017 Civic SI Engine, yet all the tuner bois seem to manage alright. This isn't even a turbo.

 

[mds5917]

I find it hard to believe that a vehicle with the legacy, cult following and market share of Jeep is going to "fold" due to the yet-undelivered Bronco. I just got my first Jeep (thanks to the interim lease from @DealerInsider), and while the shortcomings I am finding are things that I think the Bronco will alleviate (road manners, and of course the dated 'look' that many appreciate) I also recognize the value of the wide variety of 3rd party modifications and options available, not to mention the ability to configure one in almost any way possible (hello heated seats and steering wheel).

Cannot wait for my Bronco (though I have to) but believe that this will help spur the market and options for both, as well as to likely bring in more manufacturers and choice.

 

[Squatch]

This "boomer" shit is obnoxious. Please stop using it

You missed his screen name?

 

[JoeSpeed]

Now things are picking up as I type this, so won't read all this, but I often head to the 5 borough's for work, so thats 75-80 on the turnpike.

Read about the steering issues, friend said he didn't like how his rental Wrangler was when he went to Florida months ago, remember feeling like I was a teenager again as I struggled to smoothly let out the clutch during a test drive years ago, and don't like that if I wanna tune it, no OEM+ Option, even if Im throwing a few AM parts on.

Between the videos, the fact that its ifs/sra is like the work truck and stuff, all I gotta do is figure out what color I want and base it is

 

[Hoofnmouth]

This "boomer" shit is obnoxious. Please stop using it


Again, twin turbo, direct injection, electronic timing control, etc. etc. There's a lot more going on with new engines, and this engine in particular than a 10 year old Chrysler V6. Granted I have no doubt it has a lot to do with new emissions regulations, and efficiency and all that. In any case, this just sounds like the typical gripes of literally every classic/pre 2000 car owner ever. "Give me a carbureted V8 any day over this new fangled mess." *spits into spittoon*

Doesnt look much more complicated than this 2017 Civic SI Engine, yet all the tuner bois seem to manage alright. This isn't even a turbo.

Just not a fan of put a big plastic cover on it everything is fine.

 

[Wanted33]

I saw a new Jeep Wrangler commercial the other day, so Jeep is taking the Bronco seriously IMHO. I haven't seen a commercial from Jeep featuring just the Wrangler in years. As far as the Bronco taking the market away from Jeep, I don't know. The Jeep has a solid history. You can scream quality issues all day, that doesn't seem to matter, the history is still there. In my mind it's the Bronco that's sucking hind tit. It is going to have to prove itself out in the real world before it can get past the Jeep.

Disclaimer: Yes I own a Jeep. No I'm not a fanboy. I'm just offering up my useless opinion from what I see on the road.

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