I’m fairly certain all current 2.7 platforms are 7 quarts, but you make some valid points and provided a solution, kudos to you sir.
Thats not the ford way
My Edge ST and F-150 2.7 are both 6 Quart capacity. I think the Bronco 2.7 might be the only 7 qt capacity? Does the Bronco in fact have a different/deeper oil pan? I mean, that would make sense for off roading. What doesn't make sense is that Ford could screw up something as important as a dipstick. Can't blame Webasto for that.......
I thought Ford's official reason was because the engine was designed to drain down slow for the start/stop?
Some bean counter has likely determined that in the long run Ford will save money replacing the relatively few engines that actually fail because of lack of oil rather than make it right and replace the dipsticks. In the end, they'll probably get sued and lose much more money. These companies never seem to learn from their mistakes.
I guess for now no matter what the dipstick says, put 7 qts in it at oil change time.
I’ll be pretty honest most techs that would be using the dipstick the most are usually contracted employees. And also they generally would do exactly as the spec sheet says for oil fill I doubt they even focus specifically on what the dipstick says: drain oil, fill with 7 quarts, done. It’s not surprising in the slightest to have prototype products in the field with parts from other vehicles. The issue is that it’s assumed it’ll get fixed in production. Another stellar example are the tube doors. Those things are godawful ugly (welds and fit and finish). It’s horrible I don’t understand it right now.
I don't have access to the Ford parts system but it was interesting when I went to my dealer. When I told him about the "new" number, he looked in his part system and then told me that the stick fits Navigators and F-150s and Explorers with 3.5s. I then was politely persistent, and then he took a little bit longer to search and finally he found that the number I gave him is also indicated for the ('22) Bronco. Even when I went to a different dealership back in November, right after I found that my old stick was inaccurate, they told me that the "new" number was the correct number for Broncos. He didn't have one in stock, so I couldn't buy one or even check it against the stick I had at the time. Based on those experiences, I imagine that there is more than one place to look in the parts database...it all seems to depend on how deep of a dive the parts person is willing to go through...at least now that we know that the new stick is the correct stick that makes it a lot easier (unless the part guy tries to cross-reference it with a VIN and finds the old number which is apparently happening depending upon the dealership you land in).
He would be close in assuming that it’s the same as the 3.5L EcoBoost since the part number is almost the same: ML3Z-6750-B
I am unaware of anything official...other than Ford did confirm that our engines are meant to hold 7 quarts and that the M part number provided accurately measures that amount. I recommend simply asking the dealer to order the correct stick and calling it a day with zero attempt to draw attention to the former stick fiasco (unless you want to get into a long conversation or if you want your dealer to document your rationale for swapping sticks). Apparently some dealers have quickly found that the new number matches Broncos, and others resist and tell the customer that the new number is not the correct number (but it is if the goal is being able to accurately measure 7 quarts in our 2.7s). I imagine that Ford is in no hurry to provide anything that highlights that the wrong stick was ever intended to be used in the Broncos. Flip provided screenshots of the closest thing we will have access to as "proof."
If you have a 2.7 l engine, and if you removed the oil filter housing first, and waited 15 minutes before you drained it, about 6.7 quarts should have come out if it was a factory fill (the filter holds several ounces when saturated). If you added 6 after having drained all the old oil out, and if your stick reads full after you ran the engine and waited 15 minutes to check the level, I would wager that you have the F stick and not the M stick.
Let's assume I was being honest that only 6 quarts came out (and that I did it correctly), and that I refilled it with the same (maybe a tick more) amount of oil that came out...Any thoughts on that?
