Thinking about a Bronco

[userdude]

The dimensions of the front of the cabin are identical. Whatever you perceived is literally in your imagination.

The door is definitely shorter on the 4dr. From what I understand, the Bronco 2dr door is only eclipsed by the Mustang for the longest door at Ford.

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[not on the rug]

The door is definitely shorter on the 4dr. From what I understand, the Bronco 2dr door is only eclipsed by the Mustang for the longest door at Ford.

The door is longer on the 2 door, but the headroom, shoulder room and legroom is identical. The B-Pillar is shifted back on the 2 door like 8" or something. Nothing substantially different enough for the dramatics unless this dude is 7ft tall or morbidly obese.

I remember door size being a selling point for some folks in other threads here because, well, they're morbidly obese.

I have a buddy who is 6'2" and 300lbs and another who is 6'4" and like 225 and both have driven my bronco and had zero issues in the cabin.

 

[userdude]

The door is longer on the 2 door, but the headroom, shoulder room and legroom is identical. The B-Pillar is shifted back on the 2 door like 8" or something. Nothing substantially different enough for the dramatics unless this dude is 7ft tall or morbidly obese.

I remember door size being a selling point for some folks in other threads here because, well, they're morbidly obese.

I have a buddy who is 6'2" and 300lbs and another who is 6'4" and like 225 and both have driven my bronco and had zero issues in the cabin.

I honestly have no idea why you take this stuff so personally. Good luck, man. Very undude like.

 

[not on the rug]

I honestly have no idea why you take this stuff so personally. Good luck, man. Very undude like.

That's an odd observation. How does it seem like I take anything personally?

 

[dpAtlanta]

That's an odd observation. How does it seem like I take anything personally?

I read nothing into your response either... confused also!

 

[dpAtlanta]

I love a manual and prefer it as well, but I'd likely never trade power for a stickshift unless that car was insanely fun to row through the gears with. The Bronco is not that type of vehicle.

This EXACTLY...!!!!

I drove both back to back, and the torque and acceleration of the 2.7 with the SAS was alot more fun.
I still have my Shelby for rowing gears. If I didn't have the GT350, I probably would have got the manual just to have a stick shift in the line-up.

 

[timhood]

I'd want more than mere power to accept a slushbox.

When the auto beats the manual, maybe it's time to change which transmission gets that moniker. It used to be that was the derogatory term for an automatic because it was slower. Now the manual is the slush box . I'm more of a "manual in the right application" person, and while I respect that you guys somehow enjoy the manual in the Bronco, that's not the right application for me.

 

[timhood]

Let me start by saying I've been a Wrangler guy since 2012. I've had 4 Rubicons. The reason I got into Jeeps initially was I thought it would be cool having the top and doors off. But the biggest thing is having a manual transmission. There were no other vehicles that had all that back then, and I've just stayed with Jeeps. I have never had a problem with any of them and I put about 90K on each one. I'm at 95K on my current one and I think it's time for a change. I'd probably go with a 2 door Bronco with a stick. I don't want an automatic. How is the smaller engine with the stick? Will it go at least as good as my Jeep? I'd like some opinions from those that have had both Jeep and Ford manuals. Thanks

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Thought I'd ask this here too. My dad was a Ford employee. Is there any better discount than the A/Z plan? Some Jeep dealerships offer 6-9% under invoice, I was wondering if any Ford Dealerships did anything similar, or if the Z plan price was better.

I bought the 2-door V6 because I had to buy without test-driving the 4-cylinder vs. the 6. No ragrets, not even one letter.

It's possible I might have found the 4 to be good enough. I've got a friend with a Rubicon, and I will guarantee you'll find the Bronco drives night-and-day better, auto or manual. Despite some teething problems with some parts, I also think overall the Bronco will be more reliable (let's face it, the Wrangler is at the very bottom, so you can only go up from there). So, if there's a Bronco trim that fits your use case, I think you'll be happy. 90k isn't really a lot of miles on a modern vehicle, so if you usually turn over your vehicles before 100k, you'll likely have minimal issues.

 

[BroncoChallenger]

The door is longer on the 2 door, but the headroom, shoulder room and legroom is identical. The B-Pillar is shifted back on the 2 door like 8" or something. Nothing substantially different enough for the dramatics unless this dude is 7ft tall or morbidly obese.

I remember door size being a selling point for some folks in other threads here because, well, they're morbidly obese.

I have a buddy who is 6'2" and 300lbs and another who is 6'4" and like 225 and both have driven my bronco and had zero issues in the cabin.

I will admit I haven't driven a 4-door variant, because when we were looking we were looking specifically at 2-doors because it'll be my son's primary vehicle in about a year. Very little legroom in the back seat means very little chance of extra passengers, meaning fewer distractions for a new driver.

That said, I did notice the door on the 2-doors are longer than the front doors on a 4-door, and that's a bit of a concern...because I DID look at a 4-door Jeep back before I got my Power Wagon in 2018 (we 'weren't going to camp anymore because we moved to a lake,' so I didn't need my 1-ton trucks anymore...but that's a completely different story), and getting into the driver's seat caused the B-pillar to drag across my back with a jacket on. Even with a jacket off, I would still bang my left shoulder on the B-pillar as I got situated in the driver's seat...but once there it wasn't a problem. From the descriptions in this thread, it sounds like I'm glad we DIDN'T get the 4-door, because that would be rather annoying to deal with every time I got in or out.

Sure, I'd likely have adapted...but I would find it mildly annoying.

 

[crzyhawk]

When the auto beats the manual, maybe it's time to change which transmission gets that moniker. It used to be that was the derogatory term for an automatic because it was slower. Now the manual is the slush box . I'm more of a "manual in the right application" person, and while I respect that you guys somehow enjoy the manual in the Bronco, that's not the right application for me.

No, I don't think so. It's still a bunch of hydraulics going round and round inside. Manual is still physical gears going round and round. How good it is, has zero relevance. I'm lazy about a good many things., but shifting isn't one of them.

 

[not on the rug]

No, I don't think so. It's still a bunch of hydraulics going round and round inside. Manual is still physical gears going round and round. How good it is, has zero relevance. I'm lazy about a good many things., but shifting isn't one of them.

Automatic transmissions are far more efficient converters of power. They eliminate power delay, human delay and human error. Modern automatic trannys are not (in most cases) slushboxes. They are well made, efficient and effective and not nearly as fun as a manual. We all get it. They aren't slushboxes though. It's a shame ford doesn't offer the good engine with a manual tranny.

I suppose a CVT vould be considered a slushbox as those are unreliable and inefficient.

 

[AZ_Liberty]

The dimensions of the front of the cabin are identical. Whatever you perceived is literally in your imagination.

The doors are six inches longer on the 2-door. And the B-pillar is thus 6 inches forward.

 

[not on the rug]

The doors are six inches longer on the 2-door. And the B-pillar is thus 6 inches forward.

The interior of the cabins are virtually identical.

If that tiny bit of B-Pillar space makes a noticeable difference in your ability to get into and out of the Bronco you're either in the NBA, an NFL lineman or perhaps should consider putting down the twinkies and going for a walk every day. Just a thought. Considering that 75% of Americans are overweight (with 40% being obese) I'm guessing it's the latter...

 

[AZ_Liberty]

The interior of the cabins are virtually identical.

If that tiny bit of B-Pillar space makes a noticeable difference in your ability to get into and out of the Bronco you're either in the NBA, an NFL lineman or perhaps should consider putting down the twinkies and going for a walk every day. Just a thought. Considering that 75% of Americans are overweight (with 40% being obese) I'm guessing it's the latter...

It's not getting in or out. The B-pillar jabs you in the shoulder on the 4 door when you rest your arm on the window sill.

 

[not on the rug]

It's not getting in or out. The B-pillar jabs you in the shoulder on the 4 door when you rest your arm on the window sill.

I've never had that experience in 2 years of driving my 4 door wildtrak. I'm not a giant person, nor am I overweight. 5'10" and 195lbs. Athletic build.

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