Bronco involved in head-on collision with Tesla in Arizona

[SolidSnake]

sorry, was adjusting for the negatively on bronco6g

me 2 . It's all good

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[Macjr]

So very sad and grim times ahead for her friends and family. I’m sure we all here hate reading things like this. Everyone stay alert and safe.

 

[BlueBronco]

As it appears to be a Sasquatch I would be interested to see the drivers side of the Bronco and how the front tire reacted with the crash bars removed.

 

[Panaran]

FYI ... tesla's have the best crash ratings in the industry

This does not meam you can't die in them as with any car in a crash you can die

Performing well in an actual crash, and scoring well on specific crash tests are two different things. Tests are a good indicator on many things, but it's not a direct translation to real world accidents.

 

[Raptor911]

agreed! BUT you have to start somewhere right?

So it starts with simulated crashes in a control environment with dummies.

Or would you like to test in the real world where people can die?

Performing well in an actual crash, and scoring well on specific crash tests are two different things. Tests are a good indicator on many things, but it's not a direct translation to real world accidents.

 

[BroncocnorB]

But it does look like an offset impact to drivers side of bronco, which is a tough standard at IIHS

 

[Panaran]

Or would you like to test in the real world where people can die?

That's basically what Elon is doing with Teslas autonomous driving.

 

[iamchewby]

It's interesting that the fire department strategy is to keep spraying water on the fire given lithium reacts violently with water.

We call it a PR stream. Trust me, we know how things react, keeps us alive to know these things... BUT! The general public is ignorant of how things like lithium and magnesium burn. We would love nothing more than to stand and watch a total loss burn out, it takes less time which means I can leave sooner. But if we did that, all that the tax-paying public would see is their tax dollars standing on the side of the road doing nothing. So we put a little water on it so that people have the perception of us doing good even though we're actually wasting more resources than if we just let it burn out by itself.

 

[Silver-Bolt]

Very sad that she died.
Unfortunately for her, mass wins... always. You can lobby and advertise all you want about efforts to improve safety, but you can't change science...

Depending on the model, the Tesla weight is very close or even higher than the Bronco.

 

[RagnarKon]

Generally curious what the crash rating for the Bronco will be when they come out. They seem to be pretty solid.

Curious as well.

I'm sure head-on and side collision will be okay. But the roll-over is what I'm personally most curious about.

 

[scubasteve]

Very sad that she died.
Unfortunately for her, mass wins... always. You can lobby and advertise all you want about efforts to improve safety, but you can't change science...

Mass doesn't always win.

Mass is involved in the equation, but really its change in momentum and deceleration (which includes mass as one of the variables). The biggest factor in car crashes is simply time. The longer you can make the impact last, the longer you can spread/absorbed the opposing forces and the change in momentum. Its why crumple zones exist.

Unfortunately, just because a car has a good safety rating, once you get to excessive speeds, much like anything, you are operating beyond what materials and systems are typically designed for.

 

[Efthreeoh]

But it does look like an offset impact to drivers side of bronco, which is a tough standard at IIHS

Well, it doesn't look like an actual "head-on" collision to me; head-on as my understanding is two cars hitting front-to-front. The pic seems to indicate the Model 3 was hit in the right front door right on the A-pillar. Side impacts are higher in probability of severely injuring drivers and passengers.

Off-topic, but Tesla and Tesla owners HATE when a Tesla gets in the media for an accident, because it is always assumed the Tesla was on Auto Pilot.

 

[AlpineDescent]

It's interesting that the fire department strategy is to keep spraying water on the fire given lithium reacts violently with water.

~~Elemental Lithium is reactive with water, but that is not what is used in the batteries - they use some form of Lithium Oxide such as LiFePO4, which is not reactive in water. It is the same reason table salt, or Sodium Cloride, is not reactive, but pure Sodium is very reactive.~~
Edit: Nevermind, turns out LiFePO4 does burn.

 

[Scape Goat]

This is horrible. My condolences to the family.

 

[JerryC]

I'd like to know the what the data recorders say.
How fast, when did the collision avoidance systems kick in and how effective were they.
What actions were taken by the drivers.

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