Help: I purchased a factory stolen Bronco Raptor and had no idea

[kzimm]

I would start with the vin number you have must be a salvage bronco bought for parts. find out where it came from who owned it first.

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[AZ_Liberty]

So... a guy needed to replace his old pick-up. He doesn't like to pay sales tax so he bought a stolen Bronco Raptor for under mkt value with cash from some guy, only to then take the Bronco a few days later to a dealer to trade for a new F150 (and then pay the sales tax anyway)

Not how it works in AZ.

No sales tax on a private sale. You buy my old Expedition for $5000 you don't pay sales tax. Buy one from a Dealer you pay 7.3-8.7% depending on the city. Price doesn't matter. Anything from a beater Corola to a sweet GT500.

When you trade a vehicle, you get to take the trade value as a deduction on the sales tax.

So, if you buy a truck for $70k and they give you $60k for your trade, you only pay taxes on $10k.
Trading in a Bronco Raptor on an F150 Raptor would have resulted in a minimal tax bill.

 

[GToddC5]

Trade for sports car but needed truck for work??

Yeah, I didn't mention that part because he gets triggered easily with his own BS.

 

[Fillups]

Just scanning this story, I can’t help but think it would have made a great Jerry Springer episode! (R.I.P. Jerry)

 

[stickshifthappy]

Somebody catch me up. I'm not reading all this...

See when a daddy Bronco and and a mommy Bronco love each other very much ….

 

[Ksjrb03]

This is a wild ride, and Im not here to pass judgement lol. I will thank the OP for passing along the public service announcement though. It is a fact, there are a big number of Fords that went missing from the various "mountain" holding lots, Ford actually doesn't have a grasp on exactly how many are missing yet. The evidence here of stolen report generated in MI while this Bronco was on the west coast makes it likely one of the ones stolen from under Fords nose. Im guessing we haven't seen the last Craigslist caper.

 

[Brnzbronc]

What does the VIN tag say that is under the hood? Did you check that one too? Do the Broncos have any stamped VINs or all stickers?

Also, that dude looks shady AF in the pics.

They should have vin stickers located on some of the other parts, I believe is saw them on the bumpers when I removed mine

 

[stickshifthappy]

In short, professional thieves stole a Braptor and then got a vin# from an unsold matching one. They then fabricated new vin tags for the vehicle, a new window sticker and a new title to match the doner vin#.
OP purchased the stolen Braptor after confirming documents matched and going to the DMV WITH the seller and got a new title in his name. He then tried to trade it in for a F150 Raptor but in the mean time the doner Braptor sold so the double vin #'s tipped them off that it was actually stolen.
The OP came to this gracious forum for suggestions and was given 21 pages of hell including being accused of being in on the theft, a tax cheat and a moron.
Thieves have been around forever but 21 pages of attacking a victim makes me question humanity.
That's my take on it all.

You say. ^^^^ this like its a bad thing

 

[Some Gamer]

I guess we know what Frank is up to now that he's no longer on American Pickers.

 

[Jonny way]

Sorry this happened to you and also sorry for you being dragged over the coals like this from our Bronco family. Good luck with getting some closure. I think the best advise I read here was you should have kept the truck after trade-in. It was then the dealer's issue.

 

[ONCEHADABRAPTOR]

Not how it works in AZ.

No sales tax on a private sale. You buy my old Expedition for $5000 you don't pay sales tax. Buy one from a Dealer you pay 7.3-8.7% depending on the city. Price doesn't matter. Anything from a beater Corola to a sweet GT500.

When you trade a vehicle, you get to take the trade value as a deduction on the sales tax.

So, if you buy a truck for $70k and they give you $60k for your trade, you only pay taxes on $10k.
Trading in a Bronco Raptor on an F150 Raptor would have resulted in a minimal tax bill.

Thank you

 

[AP_2004]

I bought a cheap commuter car for my daughter years ago... I asked the dealer if I could pay in cash, he said "Only drug dealers pay for cars with cash".

Wow!! So I’ve been a drug dealer all this time and didn’t even know it!!

 

[P52Ranch]

Guy buys stolen Braptor "cheap" and tax free, using cash and the system.
Guy then tries to flip the stolen Bronco for a profit.
Guy either gets impatient or can't find anyone as gullible as him, so he trades it in on a truck.
Dealer discovers the scam and takes truck back.
Guy is out the money, but flexes that he'll make it up quickly due to multi-million dollar parts business.
B6G has two days of entertainment while waiting for the next shit show.

You should have added that OP's original story has morphed and wilted during 24 pages of cross examination by the B6G prosecution.
- Thread title is "Help: ...." Later OP stated this post is just a cautionary tale for other folks out there.
- OP has stated several times he is a Ford guy through and through. Except the only other vehicle he references is a clapped out Taco.
- OP initially stated he bought the Braptor and quickly figured out it wouldn't work for his multimillion dollar parts business run out of this Taco so he chose to trade it in on a new Raptor F-150. Later he admitted he purchased it to flip it.
- OP said the mileage and sellers story added up in his mind but the posted/forged documents pretty much prove that the Braptor was never in Alaska.
Etc. Etc. Etc.

 

[ONCEHADABRAPTOR]

You should have added that OP's original story has morphed and wilted during 24 pages of cross examination by the B6G prosecution.
- Thread title is "Help: ...." Later OP stated this post is just a cautionary tale for other folks out there.
- OP has stated several times he is a Ford guy through and through. Except the only other vehicle he references is a clapped out Taco.
- OP initially stated he bought the Braptor and quickly figured out it wouldn't work for his multimillion dollar parts business run out of this Taco so he chose to trade it in on a new Raptor F-150. Later he admitted he purchased it to flip it.
- OP said the mileage and sellers story added up in his mind but the posted/forged documents pretty much prove that the Braptor was never in Alaska.
Etc. Etc. Etc.

Pretty much. Although when I did wash it definitely had some sort of salt and winter ish weather so it did trek some where. I also found a pine cone lodged in the engine bay by the intake. random. I ive been rotating cars for some time now the last 3-4 years but choose to limit it to one nice new vehicle.
I had a 2011 Gt in 2016 I traded in for the Tacoma. Over time I did the kings methods baja pods the full starter kit. It was my first ever dealer purchase. Then I started my business and messed around with profits with second cars. So I got a 2012 gt 5.0 grabber blue track pack my second ford (bought for 13.5 divorce sale / sold for 18) / isf 2 of them (first one 16.5 sold 19 | Second one paid 20 sold for 18 / gt3 (98k but it fell into my lap my family friend passed drove it 2 years sold it 112) / turbo s (only had it 2 months paid 135 sold for 135 broke even and got nervous on the car market and needed funds for down payment to house. Should have never sold it because I got the bug again and turned into a full loss. The F150 was avalanche gray and fully loaded. Loved the color and the girlfriend loves cement vehicles so I knew shed love it. Bronco had the damage cig smoke shit like that. I was already close to a new vehicle I felt so may as well just get a new one I can call mine. Bought bed liner and all that stuff for it which I then gave to the dealer as some of my heavy boxes scratched the metal bed

 

[Obiwan]

These 24 pages is time stolen from my life that I will also never get back.

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