So a $500 tune on a 2.7 means the 2.3 is right back where it started?I doubt the 2.3 especially in the 2 door would be sluggish. Keep in mind also with a $500 tune the 2.3 is at the same power as the 2.7 actually a little more.
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So a $500 tune on a 2.7 means the 2.3 is right back where it started?I doubt the 2.3 especially in the 2 door would be sluggish. Keep in mind also with a $500 tune the 2.3 is at the same power as the 2.7 actually a little more.
The 2.3 is NOT going to make 690 on that twin scroll turbo that it comes with stock, and if it does, then the pressure ratio will be ridiculously high and inefficient.2.3L can get 694 hp. when tuned. Chip it run on 93 and maybe 350 but mpg will be lower. 2.3L is not limited like the 2.7l with twin turbos not twin scolled single turbo. Where the 2.7L is limited is 400 ft lbs of toque since the 10 r60 ( 600nm or say 420 ft lbs) Explorer 10 speed transmission. The 2.3L@310 torque can be turned to say 420 thats 110/310 say 30% more torque, whereas the 2.7L only 20 more ft lbs or 5%. Once 3 years is up chip it as see what improvement . Explorer turbo only had 350 hp due to 10r60 tranny.
Rule: air in air out= hp. I had Cayenne 450 hp/ ft lbs of torque. At 5500 lbs curb thats 5500/450= 13 lbs per hp. Now say 350 hp/ft lbs on say 4400 is 4400/350= 13 lbs per hp not bad. 5.8 sec 0-60 when chipped, maybe new exhaust too!
So is this a penis measuring contest or are we talking about the 2.3 being a fine option for the Bronco? Especially for the people who want their Broncos sooner.So a $500 tune on a 2.7 means the 2.3 is right back where it started?
I don't care about a 6,000 pound 4 door Sasquatch. I'm talking about the 2.3 for the 2 door Bronco for me. And for $500 dollars a tune gives the 2.3 basically the same power as the 2.7 actually more power.You can doubt what you want I am telling you my driving back to back experience. I too promoted the 2.3 initially after I drove the Ranger, and I am not a power guy unlike a lot of people on the forum. Driving them in Sasquatch Badlands back to back was eye opening. Both were 4.7 gearing.
I am not talking about sports car. I am saying the engine does not feel good with a 6000 pounds Badlands Sasquatch. It’s trying a lot, nervous but not powerfull, the contrary of smooth. Not a pleasant experience
Sure, but what do you think that the 2.7 on E85 is capable of? There are 3.5's north of 1000 HP (which is pretty sick).So is this a penis measuring contest? YES.
For the record there's 2.3s with more performance oriented tunes and bolt ons making over 600 horsepower.
I got 3200 miles with my 2.7 no issues.Just curious what people think about both the 2.3 and the 2.7 since the Broncos release out into the wild.
I have no first hand experience with driving either engine in the Bronco but I did own the 2.3 in my Ecoboost Mustang. In short it was great in the Mustang.
So I ask this for a couple of reasons. It's seems in a lot of You tube reviews both the 2.3 and the 2.7 get similar 0 to 60 times when testing acceleration. Of course the 2.7 is a little faster but not by much. The reason being even though the 2.7 is more powerful it also weights more which negates the power advantage and makes the front end heavier. So it makes sense.
Another reason I ask is because for some still waiting for their Broncos order to be filled it seems the 2.7 is a major constraint and is the hold up. Switch to the 2.3 and boom your order will be filled faster and your Bronco will get built.
The biggest and most important reason I ask this is because of the recent issues with the 2.7s dieing. I don't know if this is because of the pandemic and Ford had to switch to a different 3rd party supplier for critical parts or what but it seems it's definitely a thing. Plenty of people on this very forum had their 2.7 engines fail. Reliability is pretty dam important when it comes to your engine.
I should note that my Bronco reservation and order is for the 2.7 as of now so I'm not cheerleadering the 2.3 or biased.
So with all this in mind is the 2.3 shaping up to be the better choice for the Bronco?
All the Ecoboost engines are capable of massive power over stock. Every single one of them. They are all amazing.Sure, but what do you think that the 2.7 on E85 is capable of? There are 3.5's north of 1000 HP (which is pretty sick).
Seems like you can take any of the ecoboost engines, multiply the displacement by 3, and multiply x 100 to get appx HP.
2.3 x 3 = 6.9 = 690 HP <- apparently a thing.
3.5 x 3 = 11.5 = 1150 HP <- pretty much happened.
2.7 x 3 = 8.1 = 810 HP <- time will tell.
I know it would be trivial to make north of 500 ft/lbs of torque and 500 HP with the 2.7, all it would take is some slightly bigger turbos.
Do whatever you want to do dawg. Have fun! Happy Thanksgiving!So is this a penis measuring contest or are we talking about the 2.3 being a fine option for the Bronco?