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recent talk of 2.7 're-design'
Yeah....I've seen a few of those comments in passing....but wow - the time to market on any substantial changes would be huge. Do any of those rumors seem to have any credibility?

But I still think that as more time passes the numerator in this equation increases significantly; if failures are in fact systemic, we should see a ton more in the next few weeks.
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I am thinking if the 2.7 in my Bronco fails I would rather it happen like next year after they get ALL the bugs out of the engine, either way I really like driving it and hopefully going to keep it for a while, if I didn't see this thread, I wouldn't be so concerned about it because it is running perfect right now.
 

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I'm still awaiting delivery but hope they get this sorted & I can keep waiting until they do. It would not be very confidence inspiring as it would always be sitting at the back of my mind. I would make sure I have a number or two for the local off-road recovery specialist in the area. Even with a group, dragging a dead vehicle over rough terrain can be a real chore.
 

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Man, much thx - ok got it - MLA87887
- we'll ask @flip to lookup in OASIS - then we'll get back to you w orig engine info




Good news - we have another for @flip to lookup, are you in contact w him ?
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Thank you for sharing the info....

With mine being EF06A21209131361, this doesn't make me feel good at all. :(

How many we have anyways for 21209?!?!?
 

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Thank you for sharing the info....

With mine being EF06A21209131361, this doesn't make me feel good at all. :(


How many we have anyways for 21209?!?!?
2-for 21209 (Wednesday July 28th) and I am 21211 (Friday July 30th) with 1960 Miles still running good and the next one was 21214 (Monday August 02) sorry but these are the facts so far.
 

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@flip are you able to, and allowed to, tell us how many blown 2.7's are in "the system" ?

There's been long debates about our members reporting versus the rest of the world.
 

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I think your friends comments about finger pointing was ahead of us way back In August. The failures have been known without confirmation of root cause. Valve Material or heat treatment? Side loading due to lack of lubrication, valve guide seating or geometry???
Any single one of the nuisance’s or some combination thereof are contributing.
I continue to be perplexed that valves are found in one piece and bent rather than the valve stem shearing . It’s root cause is likely known by the engineering team and the redesign comments expressed here on B6G have to have real basis. Not a major redesign IMHO, but an adjustment to a component (s) that just isn’t cooperating as designed.

“ Ford is blaming my friends company “

Thanks for re sharing your original post. It gives me faith that there is an enormous amount of attention on the issue to correct the reliability problem.
 
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If only someone that knew something, made an anonymous account on here and let us know what was going on… hint hint…. Someone, anyone, has to know something…..
 

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If only someone that knew something, made an anonymous account on here and let us know what was going on… hint hint…. Someone, anyone, has to know something…..
Let’s not encourage folks who’ve done more than enough for this forum already to put their livelihood at risk like that. We already have a pretty good hunch as to how prevalent this issue is, and knowing it’s more or less common than we think will not help anyone resolve it at this point.
 

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We already have a pretty good hunch as to how prevalent this issue is, and knowing it’s more or less common than we think will not help anyone resolve it at this point.
Couldn't disagree more; Ford owes us some hard info. While not a life/death issue (yet), Here's an example of a more proactive approach:

Early on the morning of Sept. 29, 1982, a tragic, medical mystery began with a sore throat and a runny nose. It was then that Mary Kellerman, a 12-year-old girl from Elk Grove Village, a suburb of Chicago, told her mother and father about her symptoms. They gave her one extra-strength Tylenol capsule that, unbeknownst to them, was laced with the highly poisonous potassium cyanide. Mary was dead by 7 a.m. Within a week, her death would panic the entire nation.

Before the 1982 crisis, Tylenol controlled more than 35 percent of the over-the-counter pain reliever market; only a few weeks after the murders, that number plummeted to less than 8 percent. The dire situation, both in terms of human life and business, made it imperative that the Johnson & Johnson executives respond swiftly and authoritatively. To its credit, the company took an active role with the media in issuing mass warning communications and immediately called for a massive recall of the more than 31 million bottles of Tylenol in circulation.

But I agree no dealer should risk a career to remedy this situation. The monkey is squarely on Ford's back.
 

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We do? Would you please enlighten us then?
Judging by the amount of people on the forum and the amount of cases here, I’d say it’s a pretty damn prevalent issue. Are you really in favor of someone who’s already gone out of their way to help this forum immensely to tell you a number from an internal system, risking their entire livelihood? How will that help you get an engine replacement?

It’s obvious this is more than just “normal” failure rates, let’s not actively encourage internal folks to leak stuff. If you’ve never signed an NDA like that and you’re encouraging others to break them, I sure hope you’re putting up some money for their legal defense as well.
 
 


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