Non-reservoir shocks don't have the same performance features.This is excellent data Thank you are the non reservoir fox's the same travel and have the same initial tunability
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Non-reservoir shocks don't have the same performance features.This is excellent data Thank you are the non reservoir fox's the same travel and have the same initial tunability
I see thank youNon-reservoir shocks don't have the same performance features.
(for the front) Correct, and keep in mind that Bilstein extended lengths 23.3125.This Information should be helpful to anyone adding spacers. Don't exceed a total length of 24.25" and you should be good to go without overdoing the droop.
I am trying to make some progress on spring rates, unloaded length, and compressed length at full shock extension. For both stock SAS and non SAS configurations. If this data exists I can’t find It. If anyone has some data or measurements that would be great.I agree. It feels wrong putting 4 decimal precision on this where every measurement was done by different people with different equipment. Zero control.
This is just the first thread I came across with more than 1 product measurement so it made it easy to compile.
Make F Compressed F Extended F Travel R Compressed R Extended R Travel Sas Bilstein 17.0625 23.3125 6.2500 18.6250 26.1250 7.5000ADS 18.0000 24.6440 6.6440 17.7190 27.7230 10.0040King 18.5000 24.6000 6.1000 18.5000 27.0000 8.5000Fox 18.7900 24.2600 5.4700 19.2400 27.2100 7.9700Eibach 2.0 17.7700 24.2000 6.4300 0.0000
I'll have to dig for some Icon numbers. Pretty sure I've seen them posted somewhere...
Oh, I should ping @popo_patty as he's working on a Bronco shock comparison. Not sure if thechartdata is useful for you.
Would be cool to add spring rate. I've seen a couple numbers thrown around.
ADS is limited prior to any issues this has been tested extensively. The research and development that went into this kit is very extensive. I wouldn’t run these on my own Bronco nor would I sell them if I didn’t think they were the best available. As for the measurement locations, they are measured as follows:Would be great to confirm. Fox shock lengths on their website are actually not the same as what we have posted in here. Seeing that ADS has a similar front extended lengths as King, seems as though they would fall into the same issues we've encountered.
I am simply looking for correct data & measurements to have a fair comparison.ADS is limited prior to any issues this has been tested extensively. The research and development that went into this kit is very extensive. I wouldn’t run these on my own Bronco nor would I sell them if I didn’t think they were the best available. As for the measurement locations, they are measured as follows:
Upper mounting surface to lower eye center for the rear shocks.
Upper mounting surface to bottom of T bar on the front.
I hope this clears things up for you. Perhaps I missed it but I did t see where you were getting your measurements for King or Fox.
VERY useful thanks!I agree. It feels wrong putting 4 decimal precision on this where every measurement was done by different people with different equipment. Zero control.
This is just the first thread I came across with more than 1 product measurement so it made it easy to compile.
Make F Compressed F Extended F Travel R Compressed R Extended R Travel Sas Bilstein 17.0625 23.3125 6.2500 18.6250 26.1250 7.5000ADS 18.0000 24.6440 6.6440 17.7190 27.7230 10.0040King 18.5000 24.6000 6.1000 18.5000 27.0000 8.5000Fox 18.7900 24.2600 5.4700 19.2400 27.2100 7.9700Eibach 2.0 17.7700 24.2000 6.4300 0.0000
I'll have to dig for some Icon numbers. Pretty sure I've seen them posted somewhere...
Oh, I should ping @popo_patty as he's working on a Bronco shock comparison. Not sure if thechartdata is useful for you.
Would be cool to add spring rate. I've seen a couple numbers thrown around.
Make | F Compressed | F Extended | F Travel | R Compressed | R Extended | R Travel |
Sas Bilstein | 17.0625 | 23.3125 | 6.2500 | 18.6250 | 26.1250 | 7.5000 |
ADS | 18.0000 | 24.6440 | 6.6440 | 17.7190 | 27.7230 | 10.0040 |
King | 18.5000 | 24.6000 | 6.1000 | 18.5000 | 27.0000 | 8.5000 |
Fox | 18.7900 | 24.2600 | 5.4700 | 19.2400 | 27.2100 | 7.9700 |
Eibach 2.0 | 17.7700 | 24.2000 | 6.4300 | 0.0000 | ||
Icon | 17.6000 | 24.5300 | 6.9300 | 18.3600 | 28.9000 | 10.5400 |
"Coilover Shock Measurements eye-to-eye:" <--- FYI, this is not the same way the other shocks are measured.Icon provided their measurements when they introduced their product. Link to their post and updated grid below.
I'm pretty much decided on Icon Stage 8 tubular kit now.
Coilover Shock Measurements eye-to-eye:
- Front: 24.53" extended; 17.60" compressed
- Rear: 28.90" extended, 18.36" compressed
Make F Compressed F Extended F Travel R Compressed R Extended R Travel Sas Bilstein 17.0625 23.3125 6.2500 18.6250 26.1250 7.5000ADS 18.0000 24.6440 6.6440 17.7190 27.7230 10.0040King 18.5000 24.6000 6.1000 18.5000 27.0000 8.5000Fox 18.7900 24.2600 5.4700 19.2400 27.2100 7.9700Eibach 2.0 17.7700 24.2000 6.4300 0.0000Icon 17.6000 24.5300 6.9300 18.3600 28.9000 10.5400
Care to elaborate on the difference and how it would effect the measurements?"Coilover Shock Measurements eye-to-eye:" <--- FYI, this is not the same way the other shocks are measured.
Eye to eye typically refers to the distance between the top and bottom spherical bearings of a shock. Most of these shocks have a top plate and bar pin that the shock mounts to. Different manufacturers will have different dimensions of top plates and bar pins.Care to elaborate on the difference and how it would effect the measurements?
If we are getting this specific, would be nice to confirm how the ADS shocks are being measured like I mentioned before. Mounting surface/top of top hat to center of lower shock bolt (rear) or mounting surface of bar pin (front). Shocks can be measured a few ways, so if we're comparing apples to apples they need to be measured the same way.
Of course! I think it was a different thread that this was discussed more.Care to elaborate on the difference and how it would effect the measurements?