Still holding out on that outrageous mass buy offer....same dude! Chrispy, can u dm me?
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Still holding out on that outrageous mass buy offer....same dude! Chrispy, can u dm me?
This probably means Bronco will be excluded from X plan also.Interestingly enough; but not unexpected, some private offers ( First Responder for example) will not apply to the Bronco -at least at first ( I guess) . I just hope some dealers don't go all "2002 Ford Thunderbird" on us. I was in sales at a Ford dealer with pretty strong allocation during, before and after the Thunderbird reincarnation. I remember some of these dealers other than us were grabbing 12 k above sticker on them for the first 3 months or so until the supply hefted up. I realize the Bronco isn't the same situation and Ford Doesn't operate the same either but still. It is a good sign to see Ford at least INCLUDING the word Bronco on this.
Probably a safe bet Iām thinking too.This probably means Bronco will be excluded from X plan also.
You have to think features based on era. Plenty of vehicles had manual locks/windows and no A/C in the 90's. Power locks/windows, and A/C are just the new carpets and cloth seats. Backup cams are mandatory so that's not a special feature.and that 1996 Bronco XL came with a 302V8 (205hp and 275lbft) 5 speed manual. 14mpg. Crank windows, manual locks, no A/C, Am radio (MAYBE) leaf spring suspension and thatās bout it.
2021 Bronco base XL, 2.3L i4t (270hp 310lbft) 7speed manual, 22mpg. Power locks, windows, ac, Am/fm Bluetooth radio, back up camera, coil suspension. Etc HUGE difference
A friend of mine and his family are highly non-confrontational. To the point of not even being able to have a reasonable back and forth with a car salesperson. So they basically pay whatever the salesperson offers. Sometimes MSRP. Needless to say - the dealers love them.ChrispyKC, you have chosen a very challenging career, I have respect for those who try to make the car buying process more bearable. Unfortunately, for 99% of the public, they have to deal with an industry, sales people and sales management who have built a well earned reputation of being dishonest and shady. It is no wonder companies like Carvana and Drivetime do well as I believe they have fixed pricing.
It would seem to be a fair guess that 90% - 99% of sales people, sales management and dealerships are less then truthful. Is that to high, are there really more sales people who try to work for the customer, giving them a fair deal, perhaps, but I'm sure most of those that do get beaten down by their sales management and leave the industry. With the high industry turnover the public has little choice but to enter into every vehicle purchase with great apprehension due to the well earned reputation the industry has made for itself.
Also, there is a difference between a "Professional Shopper" and a well informed consumer who understands a fair deal, fair pricing for the dealer, including all fees, for total OTD pricing. My favorite car purchase, a 1989 Toyota Corolla, the sales person did their normal 4-square dance, then said he had to run my offer "by the manager"; 20 minutes of timed drama later, he came back with some pitiful counteroffer, I said thank you for your time and left. Now this was in Southern California where there was a Toyota dealer every 10-20 miles. I drove down the road, they had the identical model, I had a great salesperson who understood we were simply looking for a fair deal, he gladly sold us the car. A couple of hours later, new car in the garage, the first dealer calls and said he would accept my offer, I said thank you, but sorry, I already have the same new car in my garage.
Has the automotive industry forced the consumer to be weary and apprehensive, of course they have. Could fixed Bronco pricing, from the factory, help turn the tide, I hope so, but how many dealers will still play games with ADM stickers, 30%, 50%, 70%? So am I a cynic, no, I'm simply a product of the industry.
Where did that price come from? An AWD SE Escape is $26K...I don't see it being quite that high-starting at 27-28.5KThe Bronco Sport has been recently estimated to start around $29,500, so this would have the base Bronco (with @Sherminiator estimates) starting around $33,500
wait why is the bronco sport going to be MORE than the bigger escape?? The Escape starts at 26k meaning the smaller Bronco Sport should be $24k much like the Jeep Compass Kia Seltos and Trailblazer. not more,The Bronco Sport should start about $2500 more then the Escape-which means the Bronco should be about 4K more expensive then the Sport base model to base model. I'd be shocked if the Bronco is less then $32K to start.
I thought the Bronco Sport was a beefier Escape ... same wheelbase and interior size, but higher ride height and boxier styling.wait why is the bronco sport going to be MORE than the bigger escape?? The Escape starts at 26k meaning the smaller Bronco Sport should be $24k much like the Jeep Compass Kia Seltos and Trailblazer. not more,
More your then competing with the much bigger Cherokee and Blazer.
That was my thought also. Just because it's smaller doesn't mean cheaper. The Bronco will likely be far more rugged =more money.I thought the Bronco Sport was a beefier Escape ... same wheelbase and interior size, but higher ride height and boxier styling.
The interesting thing on that, I think initially Jeep did cannibalize the Wrangler, but then when you watch the videos the disadvantages of longer wheelbase and rear overhang show up, and the first think everyone does is figure out how to cover the stuff in the bed from trail dust and add a rack. I think that plus the 3.0 on the Wrangler first has caused a roll back the other way. UNLESS you want to tow.What? No, they do not want or need to cannibalize their own sales to move Broncos. They want more total sales volume, not just to shuffle the same figures around between a larger number of models for a lower net profit.
That's what Gladiator has done to Wrangler by not differentiating itself enough, and I'm sure FCA regrets it.