Case for Non-Sas

[Brian_B]

Changing to larger tires will affect a whole host of systems on a vehicle, and not just gear ratio or speedometer reading. The PCM is programed from the factory for the tires the vehicle was built with. Changing to larger tires will change the wheel speed input reading the PCM recieves from the sensors, and therefore affect output decisions to the engine, transmission and braking systems. If you want larger tires you are always better off starting with the SAS package.

It’s easy to update the software with Forscan or ProCal though - although the software has a hard coded limit of 37”

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[2023bronco]

What's the deal with the body lift on SAS Broncos? The gap between the front bumper and valence is always larger. I thought it was supposed to be all suspension lift, but it looks like a partial body lift to me.

 

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For me I drive a lot up and down fishing beaches in and around Montauk (tip of Long Island), getting in and out at night maybe 100 nights a year. That is my off-road use. So I really wanted wash-out floor with no carpet/cloth seats as they are a bear to clean with caked in wet sand from wader boots. So it was BD or BL. BL is more serious off-road, so BD met the task at a lesser price. Now, when I bought Bronco's were hot on the market and I wanted one quickly so had limited used options. I found a low mile decently priced non-SAS BD. I wanted SAS not so much because I needed it for beach driving, but for looks. I'm glad I did not get SAS! I can just get in my non-SAS BD 20 times a night comfortably as I work the beaches fishing in waders that put weight on and take flex out of your legs. Higher up SAS would have been a bear. So that's my use case for non-SAS, which is probably rather unique.

Glad to see someone else into surf fishing. My OBX with a rear locker has been perfect to get onto NJ beaches. I even stopped airing down after the first year

I do get a laugh from guys comparing fractions of an inch on a forum. The only person who should care about your ride is the one making the payment. Everyone has a different use case, most of them don’t involve Moab.

 

[bloominguez]

Probably in the specs somewhere. Tech specs while in build in price or exploring the different trims. The info was there, just not in front of our faces, cuz to the average consumer, they don't care about that stuff.

https://thebronconation.com/2021-ford-bronco-technical-specs-two-door-and-four-door-models/

Interesting, and surprising to me. I thought this information was all over. Ford was very upfront about things like this, right from the beginning. This is going back to 2021, I believe. Other specification pages had it as well.

 

[Sitruc_btb]

Interesting, and surprising to me. I thought this information was all over. Ford was very upfront about things like this, right from the beginning. This is going back to 2021, I believe. Other specification pages had it as well.

There ya go. That's the brochure or chart I was talking about. I used to have it saved on my phone. Spent plenty of time pouring over all the nerd stuff, lol.

 

[TonkaTruck]

I went a similar route but stopped and didn’t change out the non-SAS suspension. I bought brand new Wildtrak takeoffs and fender flares and sold my stock BL wheels and flares. All in about a net $400 swap.

I don’t think you can go wrong with any scenario, the stock Sasquatch is a great package as well. I did it purely for the aesthetics as my Bronco is basically a dog and hockey gear hauler! I love the proportions of where mine landed, but I enjoy seeing all of the different builds popping up around me.

 

[Aonarch]

Non-Sas squad

 

[codeseven4918]

Loving my non-sas.

 

[kodiakisland]

Just get the Bronco you want and stop feeling as if you have to justify your choice to others.
There are two basic types of Broncos. Stock and not stock. The trim you start with only matters to you.

 

[mpeugeot]

Just get the Bronco you want and stop feeling as if you have to justify your choice to others.
There are two basic types of Broncos. Stock and not stock. The trim you start with only matters to you.

How dare you! You've stolen my childhood.

Prove me wrong! LMFAO

 

[KirchTX]

All I know is the Badlands non sas did everything in Offrodeo Moab the Sas did. That’s what I wanted but couldn’t justify the price over a BD Sas

 

[Beach_Bum]

All I know is the Badlands non sas did everything in Offrodeo Moab the Sas did. That’s what I wanted but couldn’t justify the price over a BD Sas

When I attended the Austin Offroadeo, there was 4-dr Badlands in front of me. It was the only one of the fleet that didn't have the Sasquatch package. There were only a few times, it scraped on the belly. But I attribute it to driver's error in their choice of lines that they took.

For most use cases, 33's will take everyone where they need to go. Yes, larger tires make those same trails easier as you don't need to be as disciplined in choice of lines. For some, 35's are necessary for their off road needs.

 

[StevenSeagull]

Interesting, and surprising to me. I thought this information was all over. Ford was very upfront about things like this, right from the beginning. This is going back to 2021, I believe. Other specification pages had it as well.

Wow, when seeing it put plainly like this, it really does seem like SAS on Badlands is just paying $5k extra for wheels.

 

[MannyG20]

I went the same route as you except I have the 7MT.
I will say that some people would not regard the Goodyear Territories as an upgrade over the KO2. lol

 

[jacobim]

Curious what the difference in price between the 2 was . I also went non SAS and if memory serves saved $8k…. Which I may eventually spend in upgrades, but I can budget it in gradually. My next big upgrade is steering rack.

MSRP/Invoice price for SAS to my 22 Badlands

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